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Old 09-21-2009, 04:45 PM   #1
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Default Could Our Game Plan Have Been Worse?

Did the offensive coordinator just phone it in? It has been a very long time since I have seen such misuse of talent by the offensive coordinator. And yes, Josh had bad days, but not for lack of trying.

We used the same offensive formation for all but one play.
We underused the running game and except for one play didn't use 2 TE's.
We have an injured, recovening quarterback who we expect to pass 50 times a game.
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You'd never know that we have the following improvements from 2008:
1) Maroney back healthy.
2) Watson back healthy.
3) The addition of Taylor.
4) The addition of Baker
5) The addition of Matthews.
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Sure, we have Galloway instead of Gaffney, but the reality is that Galloway is a much better player, takes TWO defenders down the field with him, and he runs about a 4.3

Sure, we had ONE key player out. But Edelman did a fine Welker imitation and Moss has also looked great over the middle.
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Where's the real patriot offense? Where are the screens and draws and dump offs to running backs. Where are the two tight end sets. Where are the runs? I do understand that Brady is not effective deep. That is a problem that can be corrected later in the year, or not. We've won Super Bowls without Brady being effective deep. We've also won games with Brady as gunslinger, with a running back and two tight ends protecting the franchise.
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Other than the lack of a fullback, the front office has given the offense all it could have hoped for.

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Old 09-21-2009, 04:55 PM   #2
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Yes, the game plan could have been worse. As bad as it was, and as poor a job of adjusting that seems to have been done, it could have been even worse.
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Old 09-21-2009, 04:55 PM   #3
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Welker being out was huge..I dont think we have so many 3 and outs and missed redzone td's if he was there.
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Sure, we have Galloway instead of Gaffney, but the reality is that Galloway is a much better player, takes TWO defenders down the field with him, and he runs about a 4.3
I've seen no evidence that Galloway at this point in his career is a better player or better fit for the Pats than Gaffney was.
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MG - Considering that BB is the OC, he could have been sending a message to the offense. That they need to execute better and he was giving them the same base to start from.

It wasn't just Brady that had issues. The O-line was inconsistent in its run blocking and its pass blocking, though they did pick up most every blitz. The receivers dropped an uncharacteristic number of balls (kinda like game 1 last year). And they didn't stick with the running game enough.

I saw several screens yesterday. Mainly to the Edelman. And 2 of the times the Jets had it sniffed out and it went no where. I'm not sure why they didn't use the RBs (Faulk) more in the passing game. But it did leave me scratching my head in the 1st half.

The Pats ran the ball 19 times yesterday. That's not enough. And they need to commit to just 2 RBs as the primaries with Faulk as the 3rd down back. Otherwise, none of them can build up enough steam to be effective.


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Did the offensive coordinator just phone it in? It has been a very long time since I have seen such misuse of talent by the offensive coordinator. And yes, Josh had bad days, but not for lack of trying.

We used the same offensive formation for all but one play.
We underused the running game and except for one play didn't use 2 TE's.
We have an injured, recovening quarterback who we expect to pass 50 times a game.
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You'd never know that we have the following improvements from 2008:
1) Maroney back healthy.
2) Watson back healthy.
3) The addition of Taylor.
4) The addition of Baker
5) The addition of Matthews.
================================================== =======

Sure, we have Galloway instead of Gaffney, but the reality is that Galloway is a much better player, takes TWO defenders down the field with him, and he runs about a 4.3

Sure, we had ONE key player out. But Edelman did a fine Welker imitation and Moss has also looked great over the middle.
=====================================
Where's the real patriot offense? Where are the screens and draws and dump offs to running backs. Where are the two tight end sets. Where are the runs? I do understand that Brady is not effective deep. That is a problem that can be corrected later in the year, or not. We've won Super Bowls without Brady being effective deep. We've also won games with Brady as gunslinger, with a running back and two tight ends protecting the franchise.
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Other than the lack of a fullback, the front office has given the offense all it could have hoped for.
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Welker being out was huge..I dont think we have so many 3 and outs and missed redzone td's if he was there.
When you have Brady, Moss, Galloway, Taylor, Maroney, Faulk, Watson, and Edelman on offense, Welker missing a game should NOT make a huge impact. It's just ridiculous to think that this offense looked so bad yesterday.
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When you have Brady, Moss, Galloway, Taylor, Maroney, Faulk, Watson, and Edelman on offense, Welker missing a game should NOT make a huge impact. It's just ridiculous to think that this offense looked so bad yesterday.
Now we know what Colts fans felt like after they got stuffed in the playoffs in 2003 and 2004. They had so much talent, but their previously successful, repetitive formations got exposed by a tough, attacking Patriots defense.
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Maybe brady is still injured... how about that... granted some shots were on the money and wr's dropped a few balls but mainly brady has been throwin it behind them, over them or underneath... i was just thinkin that maybe its rust but then i read on pft that maybe his shoulder is botherin him from the sack he took in preseason...
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If welker had played he would have had around 15 catches for around 150 yards

Im fed up with people saying Edleman was really close to welker, the fact of the matter is the only reason people are saying this is because he's white, and plays the slot. I saw a few times moss was yelling at him cause he lined up wrong. Welker is MUCH better than Edleman. Better everything. Welker gets open and catches passes that edleman doesn't.
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I remember when we used to have no-name receivers on offense, and still found ways to win against tough D's, even when our small #1 receiver was out for multiple games. That was a long time ago though.

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