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NOt sure if this was posted (sorry for reposting if it was - mods, please merge if it was).
This article really puts things in perspective for me........
"Mark Lepselter -- whose firm, Maxx Sports and Entertainment, represents former Patriots wide receiver David Patten -- said this is a valid trade but could be a landmark situation for the league. "
"“I can’t recall a situation like this ever before when a veteran player refused a trade or refused to report to his new team,” Lepselter said. “Eventually, if he just refuses to go, the commissioner is going to have to get involved.”
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I don't see any way that Goodell can just "step in". The trade is valid under the CBA, and has been deemed valid by the NFL. There's no basis for a grievance from Seymour and/or the NFLPA, just because Seymour was traded to the Raiders. There's no question that the sides operated in good faith, with the Pats fully expecting Seymour to report to Oakland. The Commissioner can't just jump in because Seymour is being a baby and is creating a mess.
Goodell was hired by and reports to the owners, and to undermine a valid trade with no basis would likely result in a mutiny. Such a move would open the door for players to exert much more control over where they play. This is already probably a bit of a sore spot after the Jay Cutler fiasco in Denver, where the player was able to make things miserable enough for the organization to effectively force a trade.
It's Seymour's right to hold out on Oakland if he is unhappy. Oakland has some remedies available, and there are repercussions for Seymour. But the Commissioner can't just ad hoc change the system because it has resulted in a god-awful mess in this case.
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Only a precedent for players willing to retire. I doubt that's Seymour's plan.
To answer the original question, this is already a total cluster*****, Jolly Roger needs to (if he hasn't in private) make the parties understand that the Raiders need to send the 5 day letter to Seymour and his agent.
It's Seymour's right to hold out on Oakland if he is unhappy. Oakland has some remedies available, and there are repercussions for Seymour. But the Commissioner can't just ad hoc change the system because it has resulted in a god-awful mess in this case.
No, but Jolly Roger can make it clear that he is Oakland's property and there's so much misinformation in the media.
No, but Jolly Roger can make it clear that he is Oakland's property and there's so much misinformation in the media.
That would be a good thing. As far as I can tell, the league office has already said that it is a valid trade pending a physical.
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"The key to any successful organization is to anticipate things, not react to them." - Michael Lombardi
I don't see any way that Goodell can just "step in". The trade is valid under the CBA, and has been deemed valid by the NFL. There's no basis for a grievance from Seymour and/or the NFLPA, just because Seymour was traded to the Raiders. There's no question that the sides operated in good faith, with the Pats fully expecting Seymour to report to Oakland. The Commissioner can't just jump in because Seymour is being a baby and is creating a mess.
Goodell was hired by and reports to the owners, and to undermine a valid trade with no basis would likely result in a mutiny. Such a move would open the door for players to exert much more control over where they play. This is already probably a bit of a sore spot after the Jay Cutler fiasco in Denver, where the player was able to make things miserable enough for the organization to effectively force a trade.
It's Seymour's right to hold out on Oakland if he is unhappy. Oakland has some remedies available, and there are repercussions for Seymour. But the Commissioner can't just ad hoc change the system because it has resulted in a god-awful mess in this case.
well said. nothing to add.
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When does Goodell step in on Seymour trade
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