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Old 09-07-2009, 01:44 PM   #11
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Unless the Raiders waived the requirement of Seymour passing his physical, this deal is not final. I do not know whether or not this happened. I'm merely pointing something out.
But it will be if the Patriots and Raiders both want it because Seymour isn't stupid and his choice is to report or sit out the year with no salary and no accrued year to FA.
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Old 09-07-2009, 01:47 PM   #12
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But it will be if the Patriots and Raiders both want it because Seymour isn't stupid and his choice is to report or sit out the year with no salary and no accrued year to FA.
Do you really think that the Raider can afford to play chicken on this, after all that's happened there in recent years?

I know that Davis is 'different', but I'd think that even he would have to ponder this one.
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As BelichickFan mentioned, the Pats can (and might) send him the five day letter, stating he has 5 days to report to Oakland or else he loses a year of pay and a year of UFA eligibility. Therefore, I doubt Seymour will hold out for any significant length of time.
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Because all trades hinge on the player showing up and passing a physical, Seymour wouldn't become a Raider unless he enters the building. Thus, it apparently would fall back to the Patriots to take action against Seymour aimed at coaxing him to honor the last year of his current contract.
A player has every right to refuse a trade to a particular team. However, it hardly ever happens because they want to get paid. If Seymour really doesn't want to play for the Raiders, he doesn't have to. If he doesn't show up, the Raiders can rescind the trade and Seymour becomes the Pats problem. If Seymour puts his foot down, and I doubt he will, he can request the Pats or Raiders to trade him elsewhere. Remember T.O to the Ravens?

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If the trade conditions the transaction on Seymour reporting, the Pats would be the team sending the five-day letter. If the Pats and the Raiders re-work the deal, the Raiders could in theory acquire Seymour's rights without Seymour actually reporting, just as the Buccaneers did a couple of years ago with quarterback Jake Plummer.
I highly doubt this happens because like the Plummer situation, nobody wins. If Seymour continues to put his foot down, the Pats would be wise to trade him elsewhere. I have a feeling this trade is going to get get rescinded or the Raiders deal him elsewhere ala Terrell Owens to Ravens to Eagles.

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I'm good with it either way, the KC 2010 #2 is appealing as it would likely be a top half of the round pick and a lot of juniors will likely come out with the possible upcoming rookie salary scale.
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As BelichickFan mentioned, the Pats can (and might) send him the five day letter, stating he has 5 days to report to Oakland or else he loses a year of pay and a year of UFA eligibility. Therefore, I doubt Seymour will hold out for any significant length of time.
PI isn't reporting this from the sitting out angle, they are reporting a problem with the trade itself.

Matter of fact they are updating the story to say that him heading to KC is getting more steam by the hour.
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PI isn't reporting this from the sitting out angle, they are reporting a problem with the trade itself.

Matter of fact they are updating the story to say that him heading to KC is getting more steam by the hour.
I certainly hope not, because if so, this will be the first time I consider Belichick to have screwed up royally.

Seymour for 1 year is worth more to the Patriots than a second round draft choice.
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PI isn't reporting this from the sitting out angle, they are reporting a problem with the trade itself.

Matter of fact they are updating the story to say that him heading to KC is getting more steam by the hour.
Now that I think about it, the Seymour to KC story might be there to give Al Davis a scare.
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Since it's Seymour all day, here is another "rumor".

Per Patriots Insider
This sounds like total BS. They're just trying to create something out of nothing from the Lombardi (I think it was him) story about Seymour's friend.

The Patriots and Raiders both announced the trade. It's official. The only thing that could axe it would be Seymour not reporting, but he probably will.
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This sounds like total BS. They're just trying to create something out of nothing from the Lombardi (I think it was him) story about Seymour's friend.

The Patriots and Raiders both announced the trade. It's official. The only thing that could axe it would be Seymour not reporting, but he probably will.
I mentioned it earlier, but when/where did the Raiders announce the trade?

I assumed they had, but I can't find a release on it other than Cable discussing him being a good addition.

Edit: Nevermind, their website shows him on the roster.

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