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I think the fact that Belichick cut a high pick in O'Connell before the completion of his contract, speaks very well about Brian Hoyer's potential. Walter is going to be the backup #2 (unless we get Feeley). Basically, Brian Hoyer, an undrafted QB out of Michigan State, outplayed O'Connell for that #3 developmental spot. From some reports, it sounds like Hoyer has good accuracy and football intelligence, is brave in the pocket and very tough, but slow and also when under pressure can have bad feet or decisions. His last college season really grounded his draft chances.
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Hoyer's recent performance: 18 for 24, 241 yds, 1 td, no int, not too shabby. Obviously only the pre-season, but looked like he has been studying and working hard to learn the system.
O'Connell must have been very lazy, given that BB was willing to give a roster spot for years to a previous QB who had never started since HS.
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I think the fact that Belichick cut a high pick in O'Connell before the completion of his contract, speaks very well about Brian Hoyer's potential. Walter is going to be the backup #2 (unless we get Feeley). Basically, Brian Hoyer, an undrafted QB out of Michigan State, outplayed O'Connell for that #3 developmental spot. From some reports, it sounds like Hoyer has good accuracy and football intelligence, is brave in the pocket and very tough, but slow and also when under pressure can have bad feet or decisions. His last college season really grounded his draft chances.
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Hoyer's recent performance: 18 for 24, 241 yds, 1 td, no int, not too shabby. Obviously only the pre-season, but looked like he has been studying and working hard to learn the system.
O'Connell must have been very lazy, given that BB was willing to give a roster spot for years to a previous QB who had never started since HS.
I'd like to see the scouting reports on Brady. Vick is now fully eligible, but I don't think we are interested in Feely any longer. Walter not playing at all last night makes me thing he is in as veteran backup and Hoyer is in as developmental player.
Last edited by Mack Herron; 09-04-2009 at 06:49 AM..
I suspect BB liked KOC personally and also liked his game but knew Hoyer was going to beat him out. Therefore he released him early so he could sign on with another team before all the other cuts.
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2000 Scouting Report from a low draft pick who likes hanging out with supermodels....
"Two-year starter. Very tall with a thin build. Needs to upgrade his overall strength. Pocket passer with average quickness. Can slide from pressure, but is not very elusive. Doesn't look to run. Holds the ball a bit low, but has a fairly quick release. Lacks a strong arm. Doesn't rifle the long outs, but he's an accurate passer with a good feel for touch. Sails some throws and hangs some deep balls. Leader. Eyeballs his primary target at times, but shows the ability to come off and find alternates. Generally makes good decisions. Had a good Orange Bowl.
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I suspect BB liked KOC personally and also liked his game but knew Hoyer was going to beat him out. Therefore he released him early so he could sign on with another team before all the other cuts.
Or maybe it had to do with upcoming cut and roster deadlines. I don't think Belichick ever liked KOC personally, I think he realized at some point that every player McDaniels personally scouted and vouched for, was actually garbage.
Or maybe it had to do with upcoming cut and roster deadlines. I don't think Belichick ever liked KOC personally, I think he realized at some point that every player McDaniels personally scouted and vouched for, was actually garbage.
How do you know that? On EEI BB said that KOC "was a good kid and likable".
I've seen nothing that would make me think that BB didn't like him.
What if McD scouted Cassell, Guit, and others? Would that change your assessement of him?
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Walter not playing at all last night makes me thing he is in as veteran backup and Hoyer is in as developmental player.
Or... it could be they didn't want him getting injured before cutting him. If they know they have a trade pending for Feeley, Walter would be the odd guy out.
Or maybe it had to do with upcoming cut and roster deadlines. I don't think Belichick ever liked KOC personally, I think he realized at some point that every player McDaniels personally scouted and vouched for, was actually garbage.
Why would you think BB didn't like O'Connell?
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Because JMcD is maverick's personal scapegoat. [The fact that BB and Pioli both signed off on O'Connell notwithstanding.]
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Confirmed: KOC's Release Signaled Hoyer's Rise
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