mayoclinic

I agree with most of your list, with the following differences:

1. I could see us possibly carrying only 8 OLs at the beginning of the season (dropping O'Callaghan/Britt) until LeVoir comes off of PUP. LeVoir will bump them eventually, anyway.

2. I think Alex Smith gets the nod over Thomas at #3 TE. We traded for Smith, Thomas has shown little in 3 years, and is a FA after 2009. I could see us trading Thomas as we did LeKevin Smith.

3. I think McGowan pretty much gets a roster spot.

4. Chad Lewis has shown relatively little so far, but BB liked him when he was in Philly and traded for him, so I think he sticks on the final 53. He gets at least 6 weeks to show his stuff. If he looks good, Tate goes on IR for the season and takes over for Galloway next year. If Tate is physically ready and Lewis looks poor, then Tate bumps him off the roster after week 6.

5. I think the final 2 spots are up for grabs between QB Walter, RB BJGE, LB Lenon, S Williams, and possibly a STer (Slater, Ventrone, Ciurciu). My vote right now would be for Walter and Lenon/Williams, depending on how Williams looks.

Awfully tough to make the final 53 roster. The big surprises of TC have been Pryor and Edelman, who were probably slated for the PS prior to camp but have looked to earn not only a spot on the final 53 but some serious playing time.

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Wasn't he supposed to be a LB/Safety hybrid experiment ? What happened to that ?

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Final three:

Mine would be McGowen, BJGE, and Walter.

I'm tempted to say only 1 of Lewis or Aiken makes the team and give that spot to Alex Smith or Lenon.

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1) You seem to understand that we need four OT roster spots. Why have 3 OT roster spots for half the year in the hope that LeVoir will be healthy at mid-season? It seems more prudent to fill the roster spot now and upgrade if possible with LeVoir when and if he is available.

2) I'd be fine with trading Thomas.

3) I agree about McGowan.

4) Lewis performed well on special teams. That is his position. He and Aiken are special team aces first. However, I do agree that Tate might replace Lewis at mid-season. Tate also might replace Edelman.

5a) As I stated, I agree with Walter

5b) As I posted I agee with a linebacker for the last roster spot. I think Lenon is most likely. Williams isn't looking good for this last spot. Ninkovich or Jones could also win this spot or even one of your three (Slater, Ciurciu or Ventrone).

mayoclinic

Personally, I definitely see us needing 9 OLs, and I wouldn't skimp on the line to carry an extra WR or STer. I think that with a healthy LeVoir we are set with 4 OTs (Light, Kaczur, Vollmer and LeVoir) and 5 OG/C (Makins, Neal, Koppen, Ohrnberger and Hochstein). I think that gives us the strongest OL corps that we have had in some time. I'm personally very high on both Vollmer and LeVoir for the future.

My only question is whether BB will go with only 8 OLs if LeVoir is on the PUP until LeVoir comes back. As you point out, this is risky, and I emphasized the "possibly" because I still think it is likely we keep 9 OLs. I could see it as a possibility mainly if BB wants an extra spot to evaluate a player who he doesn't want to cut yet, and because if we have an OL injury he can probably sign someone off the shadow roster in a hurry. I doubt it happens, but I still think it is something to consider.

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mgteich

3 OT will certainly be considered. After all, Reiss only has three on his roster. We've found guards in a hurry in the past. OT's just aren't as easy to plug in.

BPF

For some reason I have a feeling it's going to be either Galloway or Lewis, not both.

In the past the Pats have been left light at the TE spot with injuries during the season and with 4 quality players at the position I can't see them being left light there, especially with more 2 TE sets. If they receive a good trade offer for Smith or Thomas I could see them going with 3 otherwise I feel they will go with 4.

There also has to be a spot for BJGE, he's too talented to be left off. Morris has been dinged up as well which might influence the decision here. If you think about, all the backs on the roster besides BJGE and Faulk have been injury prone their entire careers.

There will also be lots of trades before the final cutdown date. There are too many ex-BB disciples that will be competing for talent via the waiver wire so they will make trades for certain players rather than chance it especially since KC will be #1 on the list for waiver claims from that group.

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In general you could be right but LeVoir was a final cutdown waiver pick up last year and he fit in fine.

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mayoclinic

MgT and others, given that the final 53 is almost set, what do you see the 45 man active roster looking like (barring injuries)? That's going to be a tough one. Right now I see it looking something like:

2 QBs - Brady and O'Connell
4 RBs - Maroney, Taylor, Faulk and Morris
3 TEs - Watson, Baker and Smith/Thomas
5 WRs - Moss, Welker, Galloway and 2/3 from Lewis/Edelman/Aiken
8 OLs - Light, Kaczur, Mankins, Neal, Koppen, Vollmer and 2/3 from Hochstein/Ohrnberger/LeVoir (or other OT until LeVoir healthy)

6 DLs - Seymour, Warren, Wilfork, Brace, and 2/3 of Wright/Green/Pryor
4 OLBs - Thomas, Burgess, and 2/3 of Woods/Crable/TBC
3 ILBs - Mayo, Guyton, Bruschi/Lenon
3 S - Meriweather, Chung, Sanders
4 CB - Bodden, Springs, and 2/3 of Butler/Wilhite/Wheatley

1 K - Ghost
1 P - Hanson
1 LS - Ingram/Hodel

Obviously, injuries will have a lot to do with the weekly variation as to who plays. I'd like to see another DB, but if Springs is healthy he can play S as well as CB.

Thoughts?

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Mark Morse

Love seeing your selections ...

Not sold on Ohrnbergers toughness and he is by no means a lock ... Could see us going with 8 OL and Wendell or Yates being kept until LeVoir is ready to come off PuP. I think I have seen enough of O'Callaghan.

I see the 4-3 being a bigger part of this Defense and Woods and Crable are not 4-3 LBs. I would keep Ninkovich as a DE/LB tweener over Woods with Crable a possibility at PS. Lenon is not needed if we go 4-3. Warren starts the year on PuP.

Keep BJGE and perhaps find a new home for Watson and Maroney. You have to find roster spots for STs Ventrone and Slater. Is a 3rd QB really neccessary if you keep Edelman? If I am going 4-3 then bring in Derrick Brooks, and Vonnie Holliday.

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