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Old 08-13-2009, 11:37 PM   #11
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Samuel chopped Moss' arm. It was pretty clear from the replay. Even the Eagles play-by play guy (they were HORRIBLE, btw) admitted to it after the replay.
I watched the live feed on the Eagles channel. After listening to these guys (Herm Edwards and Hugh Douglas) people should be thankful with who ever does the Pats pre season. These guys were was unbearable to listen to.
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I watched the live feed on the Eagles channel. After listening to these guys (Herm Edwards and Hugh Douglas) people should be thankful with who ever does the Pats pre season. These guys were was unbearable to listen to.
It was amazingly bad. A Patriot gets 6 yards and Herm says "good tackle". We get 10 yards and he says "just keep the ball in front of you".

It was definitely a laugh or cry scenario.
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I watched the live feed on the Eagles channel. After listening to these guys (Herm Edwards and Hugh Douglas) people should be thankful with who ever does the Pats pre season. These guys were was unbearable to listen to.
They were awful. They convinced themselves that BB was playing to "get back" at Reid and the Eagles for beating them last preseason in NE. LOL. At least I got a good laugh. I'm sure that's EXACTLY what BB was concerned about tonight...
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Eugene Chung showed me more in this one game, than he showed me in the 7 practices I went to.

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They were awful. They convinced themselves that BB was playing to "get back" at Reid and the Eagles for beating them last preseason in NE. LOL. At least I got a good laugh. I'm sure that's EXACTLY what BB was concerned about tonight...
Right, they thought that's why Brady played the whole half - or maybe it was because he had played less than a quarter in a (calendar) year and a half ???
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I can't help but think that the PI on Moss should have been a noncall. Yeah Assante might have been a bit early, but not enough to make it a 40 yd penalty.
Maybe, but it was close enough to when the ball reached them, AND it was pretty darn blatant (IIRC, the replays showed Samuel pushing down on Moss' arm).
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The thing I liked about Ron Brace, was that on one play I saw him double teamed and pancaked. The very next play he blew up the play and made the initial hit.
I just watched the first half on the NFL network. There was one play where the eagles made good yardage. But on that play I saw the runner almost chased down by this bohemoth wearing number 92. Now, he didn't catch him until he made a lot of yards. But considering the size difference, 92 had no business even being in the camera shot. I actually had to leave the room to go to my computer to look up and find out it was Ron Brace. Really shocked me to see that kind of speed from him.

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I saw a couple of comments here that Blasted Moroney. Well I didn't see anything that he did poorly. Nothing that made me go OOOOHHH either, but I guess he's going to be the board punching bag no matter what he does.
Maroney has no nose for the whole! That's what he did poorly. On a couple plays the cutback lane was wide open and he missed it. Faulk wouldn't have. Morris wouldn't have.

He has no burst. Unless it's a monster whole, he isn't going to hit it.

He runs lateral to much. There was one play we only needed like a yard or two. Now he got the yard, but he took chances and kept running lateral when he could have dropped his head and got the first without taking any chances.

He doesn't have any of the instincts that we saw with Dillon, or that we see now with Sammy Morris.

I haven't given up on him. But he has to learn how to hit the whole. And after three years, I'm not convinced he will learn that.

He has the physical tools to be a monster. The problem is in his desicion making IMO

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It seems there is no hole when Maroney runs but there are holes when other run. I just have to blame Maroney because I doubt the OL decides not to block for him.
As I said about Watson, great players make an impact, not-so-great players get a lot of excuses made for them. I'm as tired of the excuses for Maroney as I am for Watson. Journeyman Sammy Morris looked better (and not just tonight, but into last season). "Who dat?" Benjarvus Green-Ellis looked better (and not just tonight, but into last season). Lamont Jordan, we hardly knew ye... he looked better. But it's never Maroney's fault.

Maroney's YPC might be decent, but it's not just that number, it's how you get it. Personally, I don't want 2, 0, -2, 1, and then maybe 30. I want consistency, first-down conversions, and N-S downhill running. He just doesn't LOOK good, and I'm tired of seeing the Pats have to work their offense out of 2nd-and-13 because Maroney did nothing on the first run; it's always the same, it seems... 1st-and-10, hand it to Maroney for no gain or a loss, 2nd-and-long, have to complete a great pass for almost 1st-down yardage, 3rd-and-short, use the short pass as a running game to get a new set of downs, 1st-and-10, hand it to Maroney again and watch him get stuffed. I mean, jeez, when he actually cuts into the line and gets 5, I want to cheer. Other ballcarriers manage to stumble forward for 5 but, as you point out, when Maroney gets the ball the holes suddenly vanish?
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As I said about Watson, great players make an impact, not-so-great players get a lot of excuses made for them. I'm as tired of the excuses for Maroney as I am for Watson. Journeyman Sammy Morris looked better (and not just tonight, but into last season). "Who dat?" Benjarvus Green-Ellis looked better (and not just tonight, but into last season). Lamont Jordan, we hardly knew ye... he looked better. But it's never Maroney's fault.

Maroney's YPC might be decent, but it's not just that number, it's how you get it. Personally, I don't want 2, 0, -2, 1, and then maybe 30. I want consistency, first-down conversions, and N-S downhill running. He just doesn't LOOK good, and I'm tired of seeing the Pats have to work their offense out of 2nd-and-13 because Maroney did nothing on the first run; it's always the same, it seems... 1st-and-10, hand it to Maroney for no gain or a loss, 2nd-and-long, have to complete a great pass for almost 1st-down yardage, 3rd-and-short, use the short pass as a running game to get a new set of downs, 1st-and-10, hand it to Maroney again and watch him get stuffed. I mean, jeez, when he actually cuts into the line and gets 5, I want to cheer. Other ballcarriers manage to stumble forward for 5 but, as you point out, when Maroney gets the ball the holes suddenly vanish?
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Edelman as I expected is our best rookie and I'm not berating others, the guy is going to be a superstar.
Chris Baker looked good, so did Thomas.
Chung looked very good.
Myron Pryor is one scary dude, needs work but he has so much power its just frightening.
I loved that moment after Brady didn't find Moss but found Sheldon Brown instead and he slammed his helmet off the ground. Thats our guy as competitive as ever even in a preseason game.
OL looked good and protected Brady well.
I don't know about the 4 man front, we have the big guys for it and its probably just practice or even just a deterrent to teams that might try and use the wildcat against us but I'm a 3-4 guy, no harm getting plenty of practice with it though.
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