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Old 07-27-2009, 11:04 PM   #1
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Old 07-27-2009, 11:14 PM   #2
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Well, if he's looking for "the second coming of Ben Coates," then we're all SOL. I think Baker and Smith add a lot of variety to the passing and running games. Much stronger at the position going into this year.
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One of these days, someone is going to have to delineate what's expected of tight ends, especially in a round-by-round comparison.
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Here's ANOTHER jamoke who wants 22 all pros, and its a "weakness" if they don't. I couldn't believe my eyes when he stated that the Pats are "light" at the TE position. I wonder how many teams have 3 guys who have caught at LEAST 40 passes from the TE position in a season. How many freaken passes do you think will be available when the basic Set is 3 WRs and you have to feed the Moss/Welker/Galloway monster.

Then he commits a pet peave of mine by calling Watson a disappointment JUST because he was the 32nd pick in the draft. You'd be amazed how less of a "disappointment he would have been if he'd been the 33rd pick.

Watson has been a victm of OUR high expectations more than BBs. Sure we all loved his "measurables, but the fact remains that Watson has improved his blocking every year. He's a "decent" receiver, when he gets a chance, which hasn't been a lot since 2007. Yeah I know his flaws. He isn't a smooth route runner. He doesn't have great hands. So he isn't Tony Gonsalez but he is very competent all round STARTING TE, who has tended to do the most important thing BB asks....to "do your job". Not to OUR expectations, but to HIS. This ISN'T FF. Gonzales wouldn't put up big numbers either if he were the 3rd or 4th option, or even worse constantly blocking.....or simply not on the field.

THis dolt brings back every TE that has been through NE the past DECADE to somehow try and prove his terribly weak point. The Pats are SOOOOO much better of than the rest of the division it isn't funny. Can anyone name the TE who plays BEHIND Dustin Kellher. Can you even NAME the Miami STARTING TE let alone his back ups. I know I can't. The Fact is the Pats have 3 PROVEN STARTING TEs that can play the complimentary role that is expected of the TE in this high powered offense. They all can block, play HB, go in myriad motions of an HB. And despite him trying to hang Thomas with a lifelong albatrose, because he made a single bonehead play, he remains the TE with the most potential as a pure receiving TE. (I wonder how he'd feel if he was reminded just one of his bone head columns, let alone all of the dumb ones he's written )

Far from being "LIGHT", the Pats TE situation is PROBABLY the deepest position on the squad. What OTHER team in the LEAGUE (Oh God, I'm starting to shout) has 3 guys with the experience and ALLROUND talents of Smith/Watson/Baker. There might be several teams with better individual TEs, but not 3/'4 man corps. Please inform me...or rather Glen Farely.

Donaldson's precamp column was trite and lazy, but this one is just play WRONG.

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The TE position is a little cloudy at this point, but it is still WAY ahead of last year and has plenty of capable options...

...I wouldn't expect great things from them, just EFFECTIVENESS from them when asked for it...
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I attended a Dinner with the Head Coach banquet in june (really cool event) and BB said this was the Best TE group he has ever coached.
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Can anyone name the TE who plays BEHIND Dustin Kellher. Can you even NAME the Miami STARTING TE let alone his back ups.
Brown, NE's former DL claimed off waivers by Tangini, they let Bubba Franks go and signed a kid named Owens.

I believe Martin was Miami's #1 last year, I haven't read any in-depth team profiles for Miami yet for this season.
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Here's ANOTHER jamoke who wants 22 all pros, and its a "weakness" if they don't. I couldn't believe my eyes when he stated that the Pats are "light" at the TE position. I wonder how many teams have 3 guys who have caught at LEAST 40 passes from the TE position in a season. How many freaken passes do you think will be available when the basic Set is 3 WRs and you have to feed the Moss/Welker/Galloway monster.

Then he commits a pet peave of mine by calling Watson a disappointment JUST because he was the 32nd pick in the draft. You'd be amazed how less of a "disappointment he would have been if he'd been the 33rd pick.

Watson has been a victm of OUR high expectations more than BBs. Sure we all loved his "measurables, but the fact remains that Watson has improved his blocking every year. He's a "decent" receiver, when he gets a chance, which hasn't been a lot since 2007. Yeah I know his flaws. He isn't a smooth route runner. He doesn't have great hands. So he isn't Tony Gonsalez but he is very competent all round STARTING TE, who has tended to do the most important thing BB asks....to "do your job". Not to OUR expectations, but to HIS. This ISN'T FF. Gonzales wouldn't put up big numbers either if he were the 3rd or 4th option, or even worse constantly blocking.....or simply not on the field.

THis dolt brings back every TE that has been through NE the past DECADE to somehow try and prove his terribly weak point. The Pats are SOOOOO much better of than the rest of the division it isn't funny. Can anyone name the TE who plays BEHIND Dustin Kellher. Can you even NAME the Miami STARTING TE let alone his back ups. I know I can't. The Fact is the Pats have 3 PROVEN STARTING TEs that can play the complimentary role that is expected of the TE in this high powered offense. They all can block, play HB, go in myriad motions of an HB. And despite him trying to hang Thomas with a lifelong albatrose, because he made a single bonehead play, he remains the TE with the most potential as a pure receiving TE. (I wonder how he'd feel if he was reminded just one of his bone head columns, let alone all of the dumb ones he's written )

Far from being "LIGHT", the Pats TE situation is PROBABLY the deepest position on the squad. What OTHER team in the LEAGUE (Oh God, I'm starting to shout) has 3 guys with the experience and ALLROUND talents of Smith/Watson/Baker. There might be several teams with better individual TEs, but not 3/'4 man corps. Please inform me...or rather Glen Farely.

Donaldson's precamp column was trite and lazy, but this one is just play WRONG.
this is kind of funny that you brought up the dolphins in your points..
they have 2 tight end's im sure you heard of last year that had better seasons than watson did..
anthony Fasano and David Martin.. yes our 3rd TE Joey Haynos wasn't such a big help last year but we drafted John Nalbone this year and he is a superb blocker with some speed..

Dolphins T.E.'s last year had 67 Receptions 926 yards 11 td's and Fasano is a good blocker..
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I attended a Dinner with the Head Coach banquet in june (really cool event) and BB said this was the Best TE group he has ever coached.
I would agree with him. Why would anyone think this is a weak position? We added something we havent had in a long while. Blocking TEs.
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this is kind of funny that you brought up the dolphins in your points..
they have 2 tight end's im sure you heard of last year that had better seasons than watson did..
anthony Fasano and David Martin.. yes our 3rd TE Joey Haynos wasn't such a big help last year but we drafted John Nalbone this year and he is a superb blocker with some speed..

Dolphins T.E.'s last year had 67 Receptions 926 yards 11 td's and Fasano is a good blocker..
Those are good numbers, but you have to concider that those TEs were Chads BEST options. Even you'd admit you were weak at the WR position. Your TE's HAD to make catches. On the other had OUR WR had OVER 220 catches between the 3 of them. Where were the catches going to be there for a QB with Cassel's experience who wouldn't be looking for his 3rd or 4th options. So OUR TEs had about half that production, but its Understandable. I also noted that you neglected to individualized their catches, so I will assume that NEITHER hit the 40 mark. Something that ALL three of our TEs have done in the past.

I contend that if we had swapped TEs, the production wouldn't have changed much. OUr guys would have had a lot more with Chad, and your guys would have had a lot less trying to share the ball with Moss or Welker. If Ted Ginn grows up and decides to become a professional, then it will be harder for your TE's to get the same production.

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