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Led by a ADHD Rich Kotite with a huge gut? They'll be lucky to be .500 this year.

I think the Finns and Bills are better.

AndyJohnson

I guess we just have a totally different opinion of this team then. You have them sweeping the Bills, and I think the Bills are a better team. You have them going 5-3 on the road including beating Hous, NO, Buff, Tampa Oakland. They lost to Oakland last year. And the other 4 teams IMO are better.
I put mine in next to yours. 5-11

PATRIOTSFANINPA

According to Andy if you suck in stats one year and you have not done much,then you have absolutely no chance to improve much better the next season because your stats from the previous year said so...that is unless it refers to the Patriots then all bets are off ...typical homer,why would I expect better logic??

Anyone who said Miami and Atlanta would make the playoffs and one of those teams would go to the playoffs with a rookie at the helm and the other with a noodle armed QB raise their hand ... No one did, oops Andy what do you have to say to that?

Deus Irae

You're arguing for an exception without much justification. He's arguing for the rule with plenty of reasoning on his side.

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BradyFTW!

I'm going to have to agree with state on this one. Houston and New Orleans are both significantly better than the Jets, and I think they're just about evenly matched with Buffalo.

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Holy Diver

wow....

8-9 wins? maybe 10?


am I missing something or is Bart Scott the second coming of Ray Lewis?

He seems to be the only upgrade in a sea of question marks(anchez). Let us not forget that along with the Jets losing key players, the rest of the division has upgraded their squads as well (Owens, Jason Taylor etc). The Patriots have upgraded in every position in my opinion. We have 4 starters in the backfield, 4 tight ends, our 4th WR is either Greg Lewis or Joey Gallaway. We were able to draft depth at a discount. Sean Springs and Leigh Bodden will man the corners, backups will be both second year guys, and a rookie 2nd rounder. Returning defensive rookie of the year at MLB. Sick depth on the DL. Our only ? is at OLB, but if Belichick wasn't confident in who he had...he would've drafted or replaced the position with a free agent....

Oh yeah...and Tom Brady is back.

Its funny to read how some are surprised at the bias towards the Patriots on this board....

But putting all that aside, and looking at the facts here, the Jets will have to come together quickly to simply survive the division.

1st year coach
rookie QB
Hold out running back
who is their top receiver?

good luck with that....

AndyJohnson

This is why you end up arguing with everyone.
Please show me where I have said that what you did last year gives you NO CHANCE TO IMPROVE?
If I did why would that make me a homer? The 2 are unrelated.

But, what a team did last year, and what it did to change it are VERY RELEVANT to what they will do this year, especially to use as the basis of a PREDICTION.
Your way, I can say Laurence Maroney will break the single season rushing record this year, and it is as valid a prediction as anything.

The fact that Miami and Atlanta had remarkable turnarounds does not make such a turnaround LIKELY it makes it POSSIBLE.
Both of those teams also made organizaitonal changes, along with coaching changes, and made dramatic overhauls in personell. Did the Jets do that? Is that part of the reason for their turnarounds?

You made a statement and I asked you to back it up.
You said they will win 9-10 games because they will win a lot of 17-14 and 14-7 games.
When I showed how rare those are, you attacked me. Nice.

You make a prediction that you cannot defend when someone disagrees, or asks you to back it up, so you attack the questioner (homer, Jet-hater, etc) and say no one can ever make a prediction ahead of time to hide from the simple fact:
You made a bolde prediciton without thinking it through, and when questioned cannot defend it. Its OK to admit that.

AndyJohnson

Yeah, thats better than i said it.

Box_O_Rocks

You don't understand, Baltimore had a great defense becasue they could talk so well about themselves, which means Sexy Rexy's verbal diarrhea and Bart "let's lose it during the game while I'm talking trash to the officials" Scott are the second coming of Vince Lombardi and Dick Butkus! We're doooooommmmmmmed!

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Holy Diver

exactly!

Bart Scott's 40 time from the OTAs was just released.... 2.43 seconds

why ... he could be - Greased LIGHTNING.....