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A.V. is a kicker and doesn't belong on the list. Take him out, slide everyone else up one spot, and put Troy in at #10.
Problem solved. Although, as I mentioned before, I'd put Bruschi above McGinest.
Why the heck should he be taken out considering all he did for the team in his decade+ with them?
Because of his position? His defection? His lack of "athleticism"?
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1. Tom Brady
2. John Hannah
3. Andre Tippett
4. Stanley Morgan
5. Mike Haynes
6. Julius Adams
7. Ben Coates
8. Jim Nance
9. Nick Buoniconti
10. Sam Cunningham
1. Tom Brady
2. John Hannah
3. Andre Tippett
4. Stanley Morgan
5. Mike Haynes
6. Julius Adams
7. Ben Coates
8. Jim Nance
9. Nick Buoniconti
10. Sam Cunningham
Screw all he did for the team, screw his records- he's just another kicker
All for Adam being on list. Apart from BB & TFB, one could argue Adam was the next in line as far as being responsible for bringing Sbs to Foxborough. For that same reason, I'd add Troy Brown.
1. Tom Brady
2. John Hannah
3. Andre Tippett
4. Steve Nelson
5. Gino Cappelletti
6. Stanley Morgan
7. Troy Brown
8. Steve Grogan
9. Bruce Armstrong
10. Tedy Bruschi
...more preference to those who spent entire career w/ Pats. Morgan's one season as a Colt is the only exception to my All-Pats career list.
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All for Adam being on list. Apart from BB & TFB, one could argue Adam was the next in line as far as being responsible for bringing Sbs to Foxborough. For that same reason, I'd add Troy Brown.
I get where you're coming from, but I disagree pretty strongly on that one. Just off the top of my head, Brown, McGinest, Vrabel, Bruschi, Seymour, Light, Faulk, Law (2 out of 3) and Harrison (2 out of 3) all had much, much more to do with the SBs than Vinatieri did.
I have no problem with the fact that Vinatieri left, but in terms of impact on the game, kickers just don't compare to guys who contribute on more than a handful of plays per game.
Other than Vinatieri, I'm fine with the original list. I'd bump Vinatieri in favor of Troy Brown, and possibly Coates in favor of Law.
My big question is, where is BB?? If not #1, at worst he should be #2 on this list. This shouldn't be a player only list, I saw Papa Bear Halas was the #1 Chicago Bear the other day. BB belongs on this list, no doubt about it.
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