HEY BRO! WHAT UP?

I was just being sarcastic. But I'm sure you picked that up.

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PatsBoy12

Yeah, I was being equally sarcastic so it's all good.

apple strudel

lol - 07 super bowl and missing the playoffs in 08 were the LBs fault? Classic. Your just making **** up now. BB has worked to improve the LBs consistently when he was able to do it. He's arguably completely re-built the starting 4 in 10: Guyton, Mayo, Woods, and Crable. Your argument is just plain whack. I keep saying it because it's true.

Edit: oh yeah, throw in Thomas in '10 as well. Still whack.

HEY BRO! WHAT UP?

Making stuff up? You still haven't answered my question. Please tell me why the Pats lost to the Broncos in '05, the Colts in '06, Giants in '08 super bowl and not making the playoffs in '08-'09 regular season. You know what, I will take it a step further and say the entire defense is the reason why the Pats haven't won a super bowl since '04. Have fun arguing against that.


Your argument sucks balls! The best you can do is criticize me and bring up who BB has brought in recently. You assume that Guyton, Crable, and even Woods are sure things. Good argument.

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Honestly, I agree with 2006 and the Colts, the Colts in the second half exposed the LBs and kept going up the middle deep where we were weak, that's pretty much a fact.

In 2007 I can't blame them, they held their own for 3 quarters and the offense couldn't put the ball in the end zone. Granted when the defense had a chance to win the game they didn't, it was still one of the worst called games on offense of the BB era. Further, the secondary blew it at the end with Samuel dropping the winning INT and then lollygagging on the Tyree play instead of sticking on him when Eli was in the grasp.

In 2005 the whole team just played awful that game. Hell we would have went into half time up at least 3-0 if not for Faulks fumble and then Hobbs' fumble, instead we gave them 10 points.

apple strudel

The super bowl where the historic offense score 14 points? Yeah, it's on the LBs. The same game where the O line was repeatedly blown up? Yeah, that's the LBs fault too. Oh yeah, 08 where the backup QB almost lead the team to the playoffs? Yeah, that's the LBs fault, too. You're about a quarter inch away from being diagnosed with down's syndrome, dude.


BB has done a good job re-building the entire team, LBs included. That's my argument and if you want to contradict that, that's fine. Continue being a complete idiot.

Whackness all over this thread.

PatsBoy12

Ouch. Point - Apple Strudel.

HEY BRO! WHAT UP?

You only attempted to answered part of the question. The defense in the super bowl gave up over 80 yards to the Giants offense with with less than 3:00 minutes left in the game. If you want to make such a dumb argument that this historic offense only scored 14 points, that offense carried the team the entire season. They scored when it mattered most. So they have one bad game out of 19 games. But when the defense has to make one f****** stop, they fail.

Yeah in '08, their defense was really top notch. How the hell didn't they make playoffs?
Their LB's repeatedly were burned by TE's and average receivers over the middle because of their lack of speed. And their secondary sucked balls as well, but you probably thought they were top notch.

You keep saying this over and over again without any evidence to support this. You say he has done a good job because he brought Guyton, Woods, Crable and Mayo in. Mayo is the only proven player on the team. The rest are question marks. Nice try though.

I'm heart broken.

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Score remains 1 - 0; advantage - Strudel.

apple strudel

Secondary as much to blame as LBs. Could also point to the DL some.

Yeah, it's not like they were only the 2nd 11-5 team in NFL history to not do so. Yeah, it's not like we lost some early games to Cassel's learning curve and gimmick offenses we weren't prepared for. But sure, blame that Miami game on BB inability to scout and sign LBs.

Our LBs in 08 lack speed? Guyton was the fastest LB in the draft, Mayo runs a 4.54, and Thomas has great speed. I think you mean we have 2 LBs in 08 who lacked speed, and 1 of them was just fine only the year before. But sure, blame BB for the aging process as well.