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if manning and brady were in a movie, manning would be the comedy sidekick.
What petty crap.
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BigtimeColtsfan.. how you can say Manning has had a better decade than Brady is paramount to the failure of your postings. Manning has had a statistically superior decade to Brady in some passing statistics, but Brady has had a better decade as a football player.
But Manning has had a better decade than Brady. Brady has had one year where his stats have been anywhere near Mannings, that's a fact.
Super Bowls > Stats.
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One year. He's only had what, 2 or 3 seasons where his rating was above 90? He's only played what, 7 seasons?
And Peyton's only had what, 1 season where he won a Super Bowl? He's been playin like what, 12 seasons?
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I'm just saying Manning stats, yardage, TD's, number of seasons, etc destroy Brady's.
Maybe in the regular season. And how are Peaty-poo's postseason stats?
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You want to say Brady's team has been more successful? That's true. But Brady isn't the Patriots. The Pats won 11 games with a 7th round pick (who hadn't started since HS as you Pats fans are fond of telling everyone) last year.
11 games without Brady, that shows his team is pretty damn good.
Matt Cassell - 11 - 5
Tom Brady 16 - 0
And with the same team that was basically the same.
Which one's better?
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And I know you all keep saying the Pats didn't have any offensive threats when Brady was winning those SB's (I would disagree)
So who else, other than Dillon, was an offensive threat?
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but he certainly had one hell of a defense and overall a great team.
Yeah, just like a lot of the greatest QBs.
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I'm just saying both Manning and Brady are pretty good but it is funny how you guys act like it's no contest between Brady and Manning because Brady threw one more TD than Manning in 2007.
Most of the rest of the years Manning threw more TD's, for more yards, had a better rating etc, so why exactly is that one year/and one TD proof that Brady is better? The answer is it isn't unless you're a Pats fan.
I want you to look at this thing called a "postseason."
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The Pats won 11 last year without Brady, now honestly how many games do you think the Colts would win without Manning? This should be interesting.
All I get with that sentence is that Jim Sorgi is just a horrible horrible quarterback.
This whole Brady/Manning debate is so played out. Manning has off the charts regular season numbers, good for him, good for Colts fans.
Brady has 3 rings, Manning has 1.
That is all I really care about.
The Mannings, Marinos, Fouts, etc, etc of the world do not have the hardware and the last time I checked, that is the ultimate reason to play a team sport.
Brady set records in 2007 and did not win a ring, so in the end, who cares.
This tit for tat, Manning vs Brady, Colts fans vs Patriots fans back and forth is pointless.
Not that there's anything wrong with the tit part of it.............
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"We don't throw at .260 hitters." Tek to Pay-Fraud before he smacked him across the face.
This whole Brady/Manning debate is so played out. Manning has off the charts regular season numbers, good for him, good for Colts fans.
Brady has 3 rings, Manning has 1.
That is all I really care about.
The Mannings, Marinos, Fouts, etc, etc of the world do not have the hardware and the last time I checked, that is the ultimate reason to play a team sport.
Brady set records in 2007 and did not win a ring, so in the end, who cares.
This tit for tat, Manning vs Brady, Colts fans vs Patriots fans back and forth is pointless.
Not that there's anything wrong with the tit part of it.............
Years back, when there still might have been some doubt about who was better, CHFF put out an article comparing the Brady/Manning numbers adjusted for indoors/outdoors. Brady was basically even with Manning indoors and crushed him outdoors, as I recall.
I don't want belittle Manning, because being the second best QB of the decade isn't exactly a bad thing, but Colts fans really need to just accept that Manning's not #1, and move forward being content with that. Manning's given them plenty of great memories, and he'll give them more before he's done. That just needs to be enough for them.
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"The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane."
- Marcus Aurelius
I think Tom Brady is the better QB and if I had to pick one player to start a must win game it would be Brady. However, to think that Manning wouldn't at least be in the conversation is dumb. I think this debate is played out and the reality is there is a Brady camp and a Manning camp. Neither one will ever consider conceding anything to the other, I think this is crazy. Again, I think Brady is the better football player but to think its a "slamdunk" that he is that much better than Manning is foolish. It really shows blatant homerism and a lack of objective football intelligence.
Side note: I am aware this is a Patriots Fan message board, I am a Patriots fan, and despite the previous ramblings I actually f-ing hate Peyton.
I don't want belittle Manning, because being the second best QB of the decade isn't exactly a bad thing, but Colts fans really need to just accept that Manning's not #1, and move forward being content with that. Manning's given them plenty of great memories, and he'll give them more before he's done. That just needs to be enough for them.
Agreed.
I really don't see how you as a fan can get all torked off that your QB should be viewed as the best due to stats when it's a team sport and the ultimate goal is winning championships.
It's like being a fan of one golfer who is a record setter for hitting the ball off the tee and for making the worlds longest putt, but he's won one tournament his whole life vs a guy like Tiger Woods.
In the end, it's all about the rings. It's like a conversation about Marino; "He's the best QB of his era, had a cannon for an arm, set all kinds of TD records and yardage records and is a first ballot HOF QB................................................ ..................but he never won a Super Bowl."
If Manning had won three to this point as did Brady, maybe you'd have a point as a Colts fan.
But he has not and you do not.
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"We don't throw at .260 hitters." Tek to Pay-Fraud before he smacked him across the face.
In my opinion Manning's trump card was all the stats - the passing yardage, touchdown records, etcetera - and when the Colts won the Super Bowl although Brady still had three rings to Peyton's one, the debate intensified.
But after the 2007 season the 'look at Peyton's numbers' rationale in this debate was no longer valid. Even when taking the homer glasses off, Brady wins this argument since the Manning defenders can longer fall back on stats.
As for Michael Smith, go easy on him. He practically says that he was told that he had to defend one side of a debate regardless of his own belief on the issue. It's just espn doing what they do best: stirring the pot in order to create controversy, which leads to more readers, viewers, web hits, better ratings, higher ad rates, and happy investors.