MARQUISE HILL - The Man, The Patriot, The Hero - Memorial thread - 2 years today

[PushnPencils]

Originally Posted by State

Why is he a hero? Heroes are the firefighters who go into burning buildings, young men who go into seminary when the culture says their nuts, and the troops fighting Islamic whackjobs near the Pakistani boarder.

The language needs to be respected, along with Hill's memory. Requiescat in pacem.

But like the man in Jack London's story who built the fire under the tree laden with snow, that similar lack of prudence on Hill's part led to the tragedy of his sudden death in the prime of his life.

Hero does get thrown around too easily these days. Great guy...good heart. Nuff said.

[PATRIOTSFANINPA]

Originally Posted by State

Why is he a hero? Heroes are the firefighters who go into burning buildings, young men who go into seminary when the culture says their nuts, and the troops fighting Islamic whackjobs near the Pakistani boarder.

The language needs to be respected, along with Hill's memory. Requiescat in pacem.

But like the man in Jack London's story who built the fire under the tree laden with snow, that similar lack of prudence on Hill's part led to the tragedy of his sudden death in the prime of his life.

You don't obviously have any idea of what a hero is or you don't know the story about the day Marquise died.

Marquise PULLED his girl friend to safety uncaring of his own life before waters flushed him away to where he perished,If not for Marquise there would have been TWO dead people that day.

To be a hero you don't have to save multiple lives,just once means more than you think.

[State]

Originally Posted by PATRIOTSFANINPA

You don't obviously have any idea of what a hero is or you don't know the story about the day Marquise died.

Marquise PULLED his girl friend to safety uncaring of his own life before waters flushed him away to where he perished,If not for Marquise there would have been TWO dead people that day.

To be a hero you don't have to save multiple lives,just once means more than you think.

That makes no sense. He pulls his female friend to a pylon or something she could grab onto but was unable to do the same? Even though he was a good swimmer?

None of what you claim is stated by officials; rather, it's a testimony by his family and friends of his character, the fact after being briefly rescued he went back in to look for his female partner, who happened not to be his fiancee.

But the jetski tragedy never should have happened. People need to take a lesson from it: always wear the protective equipment, such as life jackets and beacons. The accident happened at 9 pm when it was dark.

Here's the accurate story. Body of LSU standout recovered from lake - Times-Picayune

Obviously having a bigger heart than brain, Hill went back in after apparently being rescued to look for his friend. Reports by the authorities, not his family who understandably want to remember him in the best way possible, as a hero, are as follows: "The two ended up falling off the water craft in an area of swirling currents near where a major shipping canal runs into the lake. The woman survived by grabbing a pylon and holding on to it until she was rescued, but the 24-year-old Hill, who friends described as a good swimmer, drifted away and disappeared until searchers pulled his body from the water on Monday afternoon." Source.

What you are claiming--that he sacrificed himself by saving his friend--is an urban myth, I think. He sacrificed himself by going back in after being rescued by a passing boat.

The brutal fact is that people should not be riding at 9 pm without the legally mandated equipment: life jackets and lights. Neither Hill nor his childhood friend were wearing one. And they didn't have any beacon/light that's also required for Lake Pontratrain, noted for its huge size and swirling, dangerous currents.

The analogy is a DWI driver causes an accident but risks his life to try to save someone he put in harm's way.

The Talmad says parents have a moral duty to do three things for their children: 1) teach them to read so they can study Torah; 2) teach them to swim so they won't drown (statistically around 600 children drown in the country annually); and, 3) teach them an occupation.

[TomBrady'sGoat]

State, I agree with you. The guy was an idiot for going out on the lake without a life jacket. The "he saved his girlfriend" stuff is all unsubstantiated rumor which reeks of an after-the-fact effort to turn him into a hero rather than just accept that he died for no good reason. Before he died he was a lazy disappointment around here. Somehow dying an unnecessary and stupid death made him a hero.

But there is no need to be the turd in the punchbowl. Let people who want to remember him (even an imaginary version of him) have this thread. You can't make people see a truth they don't want to see, or learn a lesson they don't want to learn. Please let it go.

[SmokeShowin]

Until proven otherwise, I consider him a hero.

I am a firefighter, and I DO NOT like when people label me a hero. Although I do appreciate the gratitude that is expressed.

As far as I know, Marquise saved his friend. I prefer to leave it at that.

RIP Marquise.

[Patjew]

It hurts no one to call him a hero.

[Clonamery]

Originally Posted by ivanfears

wait a minute didnt you retire with a big long tearfull goodbye?? jeez your as bad as Farvre

Hey, you could take his place if you want to....I can't think of anyone here who wouldn't okay that trade off. And you don't even have to cry. Just drift away....we'll get the irony.