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Re: Lombardi predicts Seahawks will trade Deion Branch to the Jets for Thomas Jones
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Originally Posted by fnordcircle
He held out because he could get more value elsewhere.
When Belichick cuts someone because the team can get more value elsewhere how is that not leaving the player high and dry?
The NFL is a business and that cuts both ways. You can't have it just one way.
You're arguing a false comparison here. The contracts aren't guaranteed, and that's a matter for collective bargaining.
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Re: Lombardi predicts Seahawks will trade Deion Branch to the Jets for Thomas Jones
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Originally Posted by Deus Irae
You're arguing a false comparison here. The contracts aren't guaranteed, and that's a matter for collective bargaining.
Although both sides are not equal (management being able to cut players at will, while players have to hold out in trying to get released/traded), it is essentially the same objective when one of the sides think the value of the contract is no longer "fair." Management can simply cut players when they no longer feel that that player is no longer of that contract's value. When the player feels that he is more valuable than the contract he is signed, he holds out. It's essentially the same objective. To maximize value.
Personally, I don't think Bill would trade for Deion because there are other priorities. But at the same time, I don't believe Bill holds anything against Deion. It's all about business. Bill cuts/trades people he respects all the time. His excuse is that it's a business and he's doing what's best for the team. Why would he be a hypocrite and hold grudges against players (who have played hard for him) because they do what's best for them?
Re: Lombardi predicts Seahawks will trade Deion Branch to the Jets for Thomas Jones
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Originally Posted by condon84
Although both sides are not equal (management being able to cut players at will, while players have to hold out in trying to get released/traded), it is essentially the same objective when one of the sides think the value of the contract is no longer "fair." Management can simply cut players when they no longer feel that that player is no longer of that contract's value. When the player feels that he is more valuable than the contract he is signed, he holds out. It's essentially the same objective. To maximize value.
Personally, I don't think Bill would trade for Deion because there are other priorities. But at the same time, I don't believe Bill holds anything against Deion. It's all about business. Bill cuts/trades people he respects all the time. His excuse is that it's a business and he's doing what's best for the team. Why would he be a hypocrite and hold grudges against players (who have played hard for him) because they do what's best for them?
Again, you're arguing a faulty comparison, and it's not the same objective at all, since even from a player's side of the story, Money is not a direct equivalent to value. Cutting a player is not equivalent to a player under contract holding out.
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Re: Lombardi predicts Seahawks will trade Deion Branch to the Jets for Thomas Jones
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Originally Posted by condon84
And so are the players who force their way out. If it was not within the rules, players wouldn't be able to do it.
It's not within the rules, and that's why teams can fine the players for doing it.
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Re: Lombardi predicts Seahawks will trade Deion Branch to the Jets for Thomas Jones
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Originally Posted by Patjew
You're completely off here. It violates their contracts to hold out. What do you think, if they're not thrown in jail they're allowed to do it?
Apparently he missed the whole "T.O. vs. the Eagles" thing.
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Re: Lombardi predicts Seahawks will trade Deion Branch to the Jets for Thomas Jones
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Originally Posted by condon84
Although both sides are not equal (management being able to cut players at will, while players have to hold out in trying to get released/traded), it is essentially the same objective when one of the sides think the value of the contract is no longer "fair." Management can simply cut players when they no longer feel that that player is no longer of that contract's value. When the player feels that he is more valuable than the contract he is signed, he holds out. It's essentially the same objective. To maximize value.
Personally, I don't think Bill would trade for Deion because there are other priorities. But at the same time, I don't believe Bill holds anything against Deion. It's all about business. Bill cuts/trades people he respects all the time. His excuse is that it's a business and he's doing what's best for the team. Why would he be a hypocrite and hold grudges against players (who have played hard for him) because they do what's best for them?
You could say that about Asante. Not Branch.
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