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Re: Wilfork talks about contract, and Haynesworth..
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Originally Posted by xmarkd400x
Vince, I'm sure, knows that Haynesworth's contract is unreasonable and will not play out over the whole 7 years.
That's why all the players care about is the guaranteed money. There are plenty of bloated contracts, but they are all fluff. Just like Stallworth's deal with the Pats.
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Re: Wilfork talks about contract, and Haynesworth..
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Originally Posted by efin98
The last part of your post is why we differ, I can see him leaving if the money isn't right for him. They prepared for him possibly leaving, even if they don't want him to.
If they were preparing for him to leave, they would have gone up and got Raji. Brace isn't nearly athletic enough to replace Wilfork. He'll be an adequate starter at best, which is great for a reserve guy.
Re: Wilfork talks about contract, and Haynesworth..
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Originally Posted by xmarkd400x
Vince, I'm sure, knows that Haynesworth's contract is unreasonable and will not play out over the whole 7 years.
Haynesworht's contract not playing out over the 7 years is exactly what he wanted. He's owed a 20M bonus in the 5th year. He has a 30M cap hit that year.
he's going to make 48M in 4 years, Be a free agent at 31, and get another HUGE payday. In all probability, Haynesworth will make even MORE money than his contract.
Re: Wilfork talks about contract, and Haynesworth..
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Originally Posted by MoLewisrocks
The didn't draft two guys who could replace him. They didn't even draft one guy who could replace him. They drafted a guy who could rotate with him and back him up.
I feel for these players. Nothing they say is exactly right enough...
Well said.....Wilfork couldn't be more straughtforward and classy about his intentons or this issue. If he was pulling a Sheldon Brown I would understand but this is the exact opposite. He wants to be here and he will get his new deal signed soon.
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Re: Wilfork talks about contract, and Haynesworth..
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Originally Posted by efin98
This year he is the backup, but next year he could be the replacement if/when Wilford moves on.
Mike Reiss and others are calling him "insurance" and a "fallback plan" so to me that is clear that they view him as a replacement for Wilfork.
Only BB and the Pats FO know what their intentions are not Reiss or anyone else in the media. Brace is insurance if Wilfork gets hurt though and the Pats did have issues vs the run when big VW was being spelled last year. They had no one on the roster who has the size Brace has as a backup.
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Re: Wilfork talks about contract, and Haynesworth..
Brace is a huge space eater in the mold of a Keith Traylor. You don't have to be uber athletic to be an effective NT in the Pats system. You mainly need to be big and strong and play with discipline and leverage. The Pats traded UP with 3 picks to acquire Brace. BB described him as an explosive and powerful guy in his press conference. I think the Pats like him a lot more than people think. And if Wilfork's contract negotiations fall apart, his replacement is already on the roster.
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Re: Wilfork talks about contract, and Haynesworth..
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Originally Posted by VJCPatriot
Brace is a huge space eater in the mold of a Keith Traylor. You don't have to be uber athletic to be an effective NT in the Pats system. You mainly need to be big and strong and play with discipline and leverage. The Pats traded UP with 3 picks to acquire Brace. BB described him as an explosive and powerful guy in his press conference. I think the Pats like him a lot more than people think. And if Wilfork's contract negotiations fall apart, his replacement is already on the roster.
Don't call him a replacement or else the wrath of his fans will come down on you...
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Re: Wilfork talks about contract, and Haynesworth..
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Originally Posted by VJCPatriot
Brace is a huge space eater in the mold of a Keith Traylor. You don't have to be uber athletic to be an effective NT in the Pats system. You mainly need to be big and strong and play with discipline and leverage. The Pats traded UP with 3 picks to acquire Brace. BB described him as an explosive and powerful guy in his press conference. I think the Pats like him a lot more than people think. And if Wilfork's contract negotiations fall apart, his replacement is already on the roster.
THe point is, while Brace would be effective against the run, hes not going to provide the sort of pressure that Wilfork does, nor is he going to be anywhere near as mobile as wilfork. Despite being a giant body, wilfork still makes a ton of tackles away from the middle. 50-60 tackles a year from a 3-4 NT is ridiculous.
Re: Wilfork talks about contract, and Haynesworth..
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Originally Posted by VJCPatriot
Brace is a huge space eater in the mold of a Keith Traylor. You don't have to be uber athletic to be an effective NT in the Pats system. You mainly need to be big and strong and play with discipline and leverage. The Pats traded UP with 3 picks to acquire Brace. BB described him as an explosive and powerful guy in his press conference. I think the Pats like him a lot more than people think. And if Wilfork's contract negotiations fall apart, his replacement is already on the roster.
That's how I read the situation as well. Based on the draft and how much Belichick tried to rotate his d-line last year by sitting Seymour and so forth, I'm guessing that Belichick saw players getting gassed in the fourth quarter of games. It sure looks like he wants to be able to constantly rotate players (i.e. spell Wilfork) and keep a fresh d-line on the field.
Insurance for contract negotiation is always an added benefit of depth.
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Originally Posted by MoLewisrocks
The didn't draft two guys who could replace him. They didn't even draft one guy who could replace him. They drafted a guy who could rotate with him and back him up.
Yeah. Vince Wilfork is hardly worried about his job because a guy who was lucky enough to be A) fat and B) play next to Raji is on the team now.
Brace has shades of Jonathan Sullivan to me.
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