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satz · 03-25-2009, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Triumph

Cutting Kazur saves 1.8 mil. Cutting Hobbs saves 2.2 mil. Niether player is a must have.

NE could create enough space for Tony G not that I believe he would cost that much to sign in NE. The NE offense would be flat out unstoppable with TG as a TE.

I hope you are joking

kazur the 3rd round pick who has started from game 6 on the draft year and is considered one of the best pick and in 3 year later review of the draft went 6th overall according to SI.

Hobbs is the starting corner who also started from the 1st draft year a thing if you might remember even merriweather could not do.

maybe you are suggest tony can play tackle and cb in a game both offence and defence.

satz · 03-25-2009, 02:45 PM

But putting tony in means the defence do not have to worry about him blocking and let a free blitzer in every down to see how long brady can play before being IRed

***Bobs My Uncle*** · 03-25-2009, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Sicilian

I have no doubt Gonzalez would be an upgrade in the passing game over any of our TE's, but honestly, how many balls are there to go around? Moss and Welker are going to combine for close to 200 catches if Brady is healthy all year, and Galloway is no slouch as a number 3. Factor in Faulk on screens and an added emphasis on the running game (given Brady's injury and the addition of Fred Taylor), and how many catches do you expect to go the TE's way?

It's not about the # of catches; it's about the # of TD's scored. Brady's 50 TD record would be in serious jeopardy if a weapon like TG was added to the TE spot.

satz · 03-25-2009, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobs My Uncle

It's not about the # of catches; it's about the # of TD's scored. Brady's 50 TD record would be in serious jeopardy if a weapon like TG was added to the TE spot.

during the brady`s amazing season watson was in their blocking and was our best blocking TE. so when you replace a blocker you are not going to get alot of long balls and it has to be a short passing west coast type offence as now you are having 1 extra pass rusher coming and you tackles are in an island.

***Bobs My Uncle*** · 03-25-2009, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by satz

But putting tony in means the defence do not have to worry about him blocking and let a free blitzer in every down to see how long brady can play before being IRed

Lets be serious.

Just because TG is a liability as a blocking TE it doesn't mean that the QB's that lineup behind center on the teams he plays for get IR'd all the time.

***Bobs My Uncle*** · 03-25-2009, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by satz

during the brady`s amazing season watson was in their blocking and was our best blocking TE. so when you replace a blocker you are not going to get alot of long balls and it has to be a short passing west coast type offence as now you are having 1 extra pass rusher coming and you tackles are in an island.

Keep Watson in with Gonzo if it concerns you enough. All you need is Moss, Welker and Gonzo as passing options and the offense would be unstoppable.

Sicilian · 03-25-2009, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobs My Uncle

It's not about the # of catches; it's about the # of TD's scored. Brady's 50 TD record would be in serious jeopardy if a weapon like TG was added to the TE spot.

I respectfully disagree. Moss is going to get his catches, Welker is going to get his catches, and the Pats are going to make use of screens using Faulk. With an added running game, we have the chance to be a SUPREME ball controlling offense, on top of having great scoring potential. I don't believe upgrading the TE (from a strictly pass catching standpoint, NOT in the blocking sense), will make that much of a difference.

And if it's not, spending extra money to upgrade half of the position would be unwise.

Sicilian · 03-25-2009, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobs My Uncle

Keep Watson in with Gonzo if it concerns you enough. All you need is Moss, Welker and Gonzo as passing options and the offense would be unstoppable.

If you're going to keep Watson in to block, you might as well use Watson to block and just use Galloway as your third receiving threat. People get carried away with TE's, just because they're goo pass catchers FOR A TE, doesn't mean you can't get similar production from a good third WR.

And i'm not giving up on Watson as a pass catcher just yet.

Feep50 · 03-25-2009, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Sicilian

If you're going to keep Watson in to block, you might as well use Watson to block and just use Galloway as your third receiving threat. People get carried away with TE's, just because they're goo pass catchers FOR A TE, doesn't mean you can't get similar production from a good third WR.

And i'm not giving up on Watson as a pass catcher just yet.

I gave up on Watson as a quality pass-catcher a long ago..... and he goes down faster than a porn-queen....

Fencer · 03-25-2009, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobs My Uncle

Lets be serious.

Just because TG is a liability as a blocking TE it doesn't mean that the QB's that lineup behind center on the teams he plays for get IR'd all the time.

How has KC's QB durability been lately?