Around the Horn rips Patriots for trade - Page 4 - New England Patriots Forums

KDPPatsfan85 · 03-02-2009, 04:56 PM

Im going to watch ATH when it comes on in 5 minutes i want to hear what they say!!

Wildo7 · 03-02-2009, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by PatriotsInGA

look, bb is smart for not taking a low first rd pick. the average for the top 20 picks in the last 5 years: $31,455,000 for 4 years. bb aint gonna pay that much 4 one player.

Again, I'm not saying there was an actual offer, I personally doubt that's the case.

But people keep saying this as if having that pick means you must use it. If they wanted to trade down they most certainly could.

OhExaulted1 · 03-02-2009, 05:01 PM

The line of comments were based on Mariotti's garbage article that FreeTedWilliams called out Sat.

Mariotti calling for Goodell to investigate "sweetheart" KC trade

Wildo7 · 03-02-2009, 05:05 PM

watchin it now and they seem to be fair except for Mariotti.

BritPat · 03-02-2009, 05:08 PM

I like Mariotti, but his personal little crusade about this is pathetic.

The rest were spot on I thought.

NYCPatsFan · 03-02-2009, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by spacecrime

If ATH ripped the Pats for the trade, I'm already feeling better about it!

10 char

PATSYLICIOUS · 03-02-2009, 05:17 PM

There's nothing wrong with ripping the Pats IF there was a better offer available, the thing is I see no concrete proof of a better offer being on the table when the deal was made. Anything offered afterwards is moot.

I don't know how some of you can approach this idea that #12 was offered to us + a 3rd rounder and we turned it down for a 2nd rounder and say with such confidence we did the right thing. Value is value, even if the Pats don't want to pick 12 you don't just turn down a deal like that. Trade down for a minimal upgrade somewhere else at the worst. There's just no way you can justify not taking a deal like that and if true it'd be the first move/decision in the BB era that I was strongly dissatisfied with. Again, I'm leaning towards the hole #12 + a 3rd rounder rumor being BS so it doesn't really matter to me. I'm happy that contract is off our hands and we got practically another 1st rounder for it.

Wildo7 · 03-02-2009, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by PATSYLICIOUS

There's nothing wrong with ripping the Pats IF there was a better offer available, the thing is I see no concrete proof of a better offer being on the table when the deal was made. Anything offered afterwards is moot.

I don't know how some of you can approach this idea that #12 was offered to us + a 3rd rounder and we turned it down for a 2nd rounder and say with such confidence we did the right thing. Value is value, even if the Pats don't want to pick 12 you don't just turn down a deal like that. Trade down for a minimal upgrade somewhere else at the worst. There's just no way you can justify not taking a deal like that and if true it'd be the first move/decision in the BB era that I was strongly dissatisfied with. Again, I'm leaning towards the hole #12 + a 3rd rounder rumor being BS so it doesn't really matter to me. I'm happy that contract is off our hands and we got practically another 1st rounder for it.

Agreed on all counts.

***mtbykr*** · 03-02-2009, 05:26 PM

The two most seen guys on Around the Horn are Woody Paige and Jay Marriotti.........that says plenty right there, don't waste your time!

PYPER · 03-02-2009, 05:33 PM

I can't believe the amount of stupidity floating around. We didn't turn down a first rounder b/c of financial concerns. Think about it. Even if you don't want the #3 pick, you can always find a partner to trade down with. Hypothetically you could trade down multiple times. #3 for #6, #6 for #9, #9 for #12, etc.. while stockpiling picks every step along the way.

The reason we didn't get a first rounder is simply b/c no one offered one until a verbal agreement had already been made. It's one thing to back out of a verbal agreement with a random team but much harder to do when the agreement is with your best friend. BB did the classy thing and he still gets ripped.

The bottom line is that the Patriots let teams know they wanted to trade Cassel and KC was the only team to step up in a timely manner. The others were playing games and ended up screwing themselves out of a pretty good quarterback.