Fixit

I love the guy, but honestly, when was the last time a team traded a #1 for a one-year starter? Better question, if you were another team's GM, would you have traded your #1 for Cassel?

I don't want to hear about Schaub, by the way. Trading two #2's for Schaub is why the Texans are the Texans. It has no bearing on actual value.

tatepatsfan

My problem is not that we got #34 for Cassel, it is that we got #34 for Cassel AND Vrabel. Cassel alone, and I'd have thought it was a great deal.

Imperator

Ditto.

Cassel was well worth that 2nd rounder. But him AND Vrabel for the #34? That was to much.

Absurdly Metro

I didn;t believe Cassel was worth a 1st rounder until I started reading stuff by football people like Mike Lombardi saying two 1sts etc. Then you hear that BB sees MC as a top ten QB in the league right now. I think I even read Shefter saying he would take Cassel over either Stafford or Sanchez and teams will clearly be willing to part with 1's for those guys. I don;t really know what to think at this point but thanks for asking.

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Fixit

People are seriously overvaluing Vrabel at this point in his career. I'm a big fan, but he was practically invisible last year. There's every possibility that we had to throw him in to make KC give up #34.

mayoclinic

Simply put, because I watched him play last year and he looked like the reincarnation of Tom Brady. He evolved beautifully over the course of the season, and showed tremendous poise and accuracy. He looks like a future franchise QB, and a franchise QB is worth much more than a 1st round pick.

I believe Cleveland turned down 1st round pick offers for Derek Anderson a year ago. Cassel was probably hurt by Anderson's poor showing this year, eroding confidence in possible "one year wonders". But I personally doubt he will be a one year wonder, I think he's the real deal. If the Pats thought so too, then they knowingly allowed themselves to get robbed in order to get out of salary cap hell.

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Jimke

The funny thing is that the Patriots are much better off moneywise

with the 34th pick (second round) than the 32nd pick(first round)

due to the rookie salary structure.

Deus Irae

Because he was.

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VJCPatriot

I think that Cassel is worth a 1st rounder IF you are willing to hold out and wait till the draft to deal him. But the Pats weren't willing to wait and they had a decent deal in place with Pioli for a high 2nd (the 2nd pick in the 2nd round), so they decideed that the opportunity cost saved by clearing the cap space quicker was well worth giving up a little bit of draft position value. Pats can now be a player early in free agency, and still get an early draft pick.

Other reports confirm that teams were in discussion with the Pats for Matt. So there was in fact more than one bidder, and the Pats could have sat back and played them off against each other until one team blinked and gave up a 1st. But in the end BB decided it wasn't worth waiting for.

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Imperator

Even so, we should have gotton a fourth next year for him at least. Old vets still have some value.