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Old 02-17-2009, 08:05 AM   #1
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When assessing the potential trade market for Patriots QB Matt Cassel, the 49ers can be crossed off the list. Speaking at a "state of the franchise" event Monday night, San Francisco general manager Scot McCloughan said acquiring a top quarterback like Cassel was "not feasible"...
Of course, they could just be posturing. It's not like they'd show their cards and say "yeah, we're dying to trade for him, we'll trade the farm for him."
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Old 02-17-2009, 08:10 AM   #2
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Of course, they could just be posturing. It's not like they'd show their cards and say "yeah, we're dying to trade for him, we'll trade the farm for him."
To be fair, it's not a rejection of Cassel alone.

Still a mistake, though.
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Of course, they could just be posturing. It's not like they'd show their cards and say "yeah, we're dying to trade for him, we'll trade the farm for him."
Bummer. Not that I thought it was likely, but I did have dreams of Cassel for #10. We did so nicely with #10 from SF (with a little help from New Orleans) last year, it would be tempting to do it again.

Could all be posturing, and I still think SF would be better of using #10 on Cassel and solidifying the QB position than continuing in limbo. They haven't really had a long-term solid QB option since Steve Young (despite a few good years from Jeff Garcia). Much as they could us OL, WR, DT, DE and LB, I think an accurate, poised young QB would be the best thing for them. JMHO.
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There are a lot of teams that think they can win with a second

rate quarterback. This is why I don't think the Patriots are going

to get a first round pick for Cassel.
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A decision like that can be as simple as the front office having a mediocre opinion of Cassel as a QB. Like I said earlier, many teams need a QB, but you have to think that only a few will see Cassel as a stud.
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Imagine what might happen if a couple of quarterbacks get injured in training..

At any rate, the need is so great and the supply so small that it's hard to imagine not getting great value for Cassel. Half a dozen teams--at least--need someone like him.

Let the auction begin.


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Bummer. Not that I thought it was likely, but I did have dreams of Cassel for #10. We did so nicely with #10 from SF (with a little help from New Orleans) last year, it would be tempting to do it again.

Could all be posturing, and I still think SF would be better of using #10 on Cassel and solidifying the QB position than continuing in limbo. They haven't really had a long-term solid QB option since Steve Young (despite a few good years from Jeff Garcia). Much as they could us OL, WR, DT, DE and LB, I think an accurate, poised young QB would be the best thing for them. JMHO.
I think, given the talent that will likely be available at #10, the Niners are better off passing on Cassel and building a REAL 3-4 defensive line by drafting BJ Raji. As hard a very good QB is to find, a good nose tackle is even harder to find.

Plus, if you are the Niners, you have to consider the possibility that Cassel is a Patriot in 2009 and will be available next offseason via trade.
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From what I read in to the original story in the Santa Rosa Press-Democrat was that the 49ers had decided there were too many holes that needed to be filled, and they were going to focus on depth rather than adding any 'impact' (i.e., expensive) free agent. It could be a negotiating ploy, or it could be an honest assessment of the team and a valid plan on how to rebuild.

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He said philosophy is not to build a team through free agency. You can address needs in free agency. He said he wants to draft well and extend their own guys. He wants draft picks to grow as 49ers. He said free agency is a tool that will be used.


He said the 49ers will be in the top 6 or 7 teams as far as cap space, but that doesn't mean they'll blow it on one or two players. He did say, however, that he expects to sign four to six free agents. He also said he wants to extend some of the young players.

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Question for McCloughan, what is the probability of attracting a quality quarterback . . . he said bringing in a big name, such as Matt Cassel, is not feasible. He said he knows the 49ers will need to get deeper this year.
So apparently they are assuming it will cost a lot for Cassel, based on those last two quotes ('looking for a QB' but a 'big name'.) Rather than take this as a negative - one less team bidding for Cassel - I take this to be a positive: that NFL teams do beleive Cassel's price will be high - which is good for the Pats, and good for Cassel as well. Rotoworld is of the opinion that Cassel will end up with a $60 million contract (though they don't say how much they think he'll get guaranteed), and the Pats will get 'multiple high draft picks' and that is what scared the 49ers away.
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I think SF and TB are out of the Cassel deal

Look for Minny and Chicago to be the main 2 teams willing to do a deal with a fair offer

A 1st rounder will not be in the deal unless Detroit is willing to give up thier #20,I can say this with pretty much confidence that it will be a 2nd/3rd rounder and something else in 2010
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Agree that SF is out of the Cassel sweepstakes. Although I believe the thinking that you don't need a 1st rate quarterback is not the right attitude. It will come to bite them sooner or later if their thinking that way!
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