The Official Cassel vs Brady thread - Per Ian

[Lifer]

hmm, can you guess which stats are from 2001 and which ones are from
2008? And I hear player A had trouble with the long ball.

G Att Comp Pct Yds YPA YPG TD Int Rate
Player A 15 413 264 63.9 2,843 6.9 189.5 18 12 86.5

Player B 10 316 208 65.8 2,200 7.0 220.0 10 7 87.3


Point is....we neither have to annoint Matt Cassel a God or underestimate the job he has done this year to salvage a season, without the previous playing time others, including Brady, usually get.

Matt Cassel has had an amazing season and if the Patriots get to the playoffs hes the teams MVP.

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EDITED BY IAN: Again, this is the official comparing Cassel against Brady thread. We don't need 10 or more of them. This is the only thread to make these comparisons. If you start a new one, it will be deleted. If you try and start a similar thread that might not exactly be a comparison but more or less is, then you are clearly trying to insult everyone's intelligence in here and will be penalized. As mentioned we don't need the main forum cluttered with these. So please post any comparison, analysis, etc. in this thread.

[Nunchucks]

comparing Cassel's first year starting to Brady's is an exercise in futility for a variety of super obvious reasons.

[KontradictioN]

Originally Posted by Nunchucks

comparing Cassel's first year starting to Brady's is an exercise in futility for a variety of super obvious reasons.

What movie is that from?

[fthft]

Tom was in his 2nd year passing to nobodys, Cassel is in his, what 5th year? Passing to 2 of the best WRs in the league.

[Lifer]

Originally Posted by Nunchucks

comparing Cassel's first year starting to Brady's is an exercise in futility for a variety of super obvious reasons.

You are right! Brady had a much better defense, special teams, and A.Smith provided a more consistant running game. Thanks!

but seriously, Brady obviously didnt have the receivers Cassels does and im not saying Matt Cassel is Tom Brady.

But lets give credit where credit is due, ok? If the Patriots D was what it was in 2001 this team could be 8-2. Brady was able to be the hero in many cases because the defense made it so that Brady could put up 17 points and win.

Remember Super Bowl 36? They offense only needed 1 offensive TD to win.

Tom Brady is a hall of famer and my favorite football player of all time. Matt Cassel is basically, so far, Steve Bono circa 1991, but my point is lets get behind this kid and give him the credit he deserves for having an out of nowhere season that so far stacks up to the performance of Brady's at the same point of the season. I still remember in 2001, after the less than steller 9-6 win at Buffalo, the famous clip of John Dennis calling Callahans answering machine "He suuuuuuuucks"

[DaBruinz]

Originally Posted by fthft

Tom was in his 2nd year passing to nobodys, Cassel is in his, what 5th year? Passing to 2 of the best WRs in the league.

This is Cassel's 4th year, but 1st having starter responsibilities.. Game experience DOES count for something you know.

[BionicPatriot]

Originally Posted by Nunchucks

comparing Cassel's first year starting to Brady's is an exercise in futility for a variety of super obvious reasons.

Outside of RB, all advantages go to Cassel.

Defense, RB is the only thing I'd give Brady.

Cassel's done well, but lets be realistic. He has talent around him. It'd be an outrage if this team WASN'T winning because of Brady.

[BionicPatriot]

Originally Posted by DaBruinz

This is Cassel's 4th year, but 1st having starter responsibilities.. Game experience DOES count for something you know.

Yup, but that's why Tom's season wasn't amazing, it was amazing for the team if anything. He just came in and led them to the top. Cassel would have his own story, it doesn't mean one is more impressive than the other.

[PATSYLICIOUS]

His stats should be better than Brady's, but it is still encouraging.

If you simply watch Cassel now as opposed to watching him in the first month, you'll notice as big as or bigger improvement than watching Brady towards the end of the 01 season compared to his first few starts. It's not something you can put in #'s but I think its pretty factual that Cassel has the ability to take us where Brady did in 2001. Question is will he get the same help from the Defense/ST and will his guys stop dropping easy catches in the clutch....

[Lifer]

Originally Posted by BionicPatriot

Outside of RB, all advantages go to Cassel.

Defense, RB is the only thing I'd give Brady.

Cassel's done well, but lets be realistic. He has talent around him. It'd be an outrage if this team WASN'T winning because of Brady.

yeah, no big deal, just the defense and RB

hello, if the defense is only giving up 14 or 17 points a game that makes a tad bit of difference to what the QB needs to do. You dont HAVE to score 31 points just to get to overtime.

if you have a consistant running game that kinda makes a difference to a QB too.

And you left out special teams. The special teams in 2001 were fantastic.
not as much in 2008.

People need to quit thinking this is the firsr half of 2007. The New England Patriots are not a GREAT team that is just missing Tom Brady. There are gaping holes to this team.

Again, Cassel is not Tom Brady. He is not Steve Young coming in after Montana. But this has been an amazing story. That takes nothing away from your Binky Brady. Brady is my favorite player of all time, doesnt mean i cant be objective.