The Official 'Trade Brady' Debate Thread - Do Not Start Another One - Page 41 - New England Patriots Forums

aluminum seats · 12-22-2008, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by PatSunday

If we trade Brady, Moss will want to follow him. Simple as that. Case closed.

Well, putting aside the "simple as that/case closed" silliness, the point is obviously a real one if the Pats think about going with Cassel--the reaction of the rest of the team (not just Moss). Ultimately, it would come down to how well the move worked, I think. Some players would be upset, but most realize that the Patriots MO is to always do what's best for the team.

scout · 12-22-2008, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by aluminum seats

Well, putting aside the "simple as that/case closed" silliness, the point is obviously a real one if the Pats think about going with Cassel--the reaction of the rest of the team (not just Moss). Ultimately, it would come down to how well the move worked, I think. Some players would be upset, but most realize that the Patriots MO is to always do what's best for the team.

You hit the nail on the head " with whats best for the team", a point that the vast majority failed to comprehend. The argument for keeping Brady has been he"s won three Super bowls here (which he did, with the help of some good defenses).
So here's a question: Would the Patriots be more apt to win three more Super bowls with Cassel and the bounty from a Brady trade, or win (3) more with Brady and trading Cassell/getting compensation picks for Cassel?
The big question will be the ruling on franchising Cassel and Brady's health.

Real World · 12-22-2008, 03:23 PM

Hmmm.....an official trade Brady thread. So this is what insanity actually looks like.

j00fek · 12-22-2008, 03:30 PM

all these morons who say trade brady or franchise cassel should listen to eei now...

steve had a great point, trade cassel and brady and devolop another qb, its all about the system folks!!
rofl

ouch another, why didnt they frachise samuel and trade him, same with branch

its not going to happen!

***T-ShirtDynasty*** · 12-22-2008, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by j00fek

ouch another, why didnt they frachise samuel and trade him, same with branch

its not going to happen!

Umm.... they had a contract stipulation NOT to place the Franchise Tag on Samuel. There was no need to tag Branch since he was still under contract to begin with.

SmokeShowin · 12-22-2008, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Ian

This is going here for one reason and one reason only. I understand there are some who want to speculate, even though most of these same people were ready to kick Cassel out in favor of O'Connell in week 3 yet now they feel he should be a good replacement for Brady. There are also some who just want to trade Brady for the sake of seeing what the Pats would do with two #1 Picks. I get it. I don't agree with it, but I get it.

However THIS IS THE ONLY THREAD TO DO IT IN. Please keep them in THIS thread. Do not post NEW threads on this, there have been plenty of them as it is. If you post another one, it will get deleted. If you repeatedly attempt to post multiple ones, you will be penalized.

Also, keep the personal attacks to a minimum. By posting in this thread you realize that odds are pretty good that people are going to respond passionately and will likely be irritated. Needless to say keep it good natured, or again, you will be penalized.

Who is this "Brady" that you speak of?

Ungeheuer · 12-22-2008, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by j00fek

all these morons who say trade brady or franchise cassel should listen to eei now...

steve had a great point, trade cassel and brady and devolop another qb, its all about the system folks!!
rofl

ouch another, why didnt they frachise samuel and trade him, same with branch

its not going to happen!

They didn't franchise Samuel to trade him. They franchised him because they felt they couldn't go into the season without him -- and it's going to be the same with Cassel. At least that is what the initial thinking will be. They need him as a hedge against Brady not coming back.

But they have had some history with the tag-and-trade move. Tebucky Jones comes to mind. They were willing to eat a lot of money to trade T-Buck, who was just a mediocre player. Cassel was the MVP of the team this year. You have to believe they'll do what it takes to get some value for him.

patsfaninpittsburgh · 12-22-2008, 03:51 PM

In the end, who exactly is the other end of the transaction?

If Tampa Bay offered 3 first round and 3 second round picks for TB, would you make the move?

How about if they offered that for MC? Would you keep him as a franchised QB?

aluminum seats · 12-22-2008, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Real World

Hmmm.....an official trade Brady thread. So this is what insanity actually looks like.

Hmmmmm......another annoying one-liner in this thread. So this is what bringing nothing to the table actually looks like.

ManningOverratedHick · 12-22-2008, 04:45 PM

Cassel has not proven he can win against good defenses. His biggest test, the Steelers, he made Tony Eason look like Joe Montana circa 1989. All he has proven is that he's a frontrunner who is capable of completing passes to a hall of famer and the most underrated slot receiver in the league, but not much else.

When we are eliminated next week or the first round of the playoffs, I expect this thread to turn into "Does Cassel still have value? Can we even franchise him?"