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Old 11-14-2008, 10:32 PM   #41
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Isnt Cassel a FA after this year? Or does the Patriots have the option to franchise him, then use him as trade bait?
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Isnt Cassel a FA after this year? Or does the Patriots have the option to franchise him, then use him as trade bait?
Yep and yep.
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Or does the Patriots have the option to franchise him, then use him as trade bait?
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Old 11-15-2008, 01:10 AM   #44
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Iam a fan of Cassel, and I hope his deep ball threat becomes more accurate, because if teams start to respect his deep balls it opens up the middle of the field for him to run.

Just imagine how scary Brady can be if he has the agility and running ability of Cassel.
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The team will Franchise Cassel at this rate and then deal him before the tender is signed. A team like Minnesota will swing a deal for Cassel in a heartbeat if he keeps progressing.
Matt Cassell is not a top 5 qp; Matt Cassell will not be franchised; No team would be willing to pay Matt Cassell to be the 3rd highest paid QB in the league and also be willing to give up talent/draft-picks as well. Matt Cassell if he had the chance to be the 3rd highest paid QB would not turn it down for a long term contract making him the 15 highest paid QB (something like 4 years 20 million with less tha 10 guaranteed would be reasonable). Matt Cassell won't even have a guaranteed starting job next year; he'll just have a "You're the lead but can easily lose it" job.

Cassell is playing well, but he's still got the same offense around him that last year had the best offensive season in history, and that kinda helps his stats. Cassell will not play as well next year with lesser talent; he's not the missing piece to bring a 2-14 team into playoff contention.
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Matt Cassell is not a top 5 qp; Matt Cassell will not be franchised; No team would be willing to pay Matt Cassell to be the 3rd highest paid QB in the league and also be willing to give up talent/draft-picks as well. Matt Cassell if he had the chance to be the 3rd highest paid QB would not turn it down for a long term contract making him the 15 highest paid QB (something like 4 years 20 million with less tha 10 guaranteed would be reasonable). Matt Cassell won't even have a guaranteed starting job next year; he'll just have a "You're the lead but can easily lose it" job.

Cassell is playing well, but he's still got the same offense around him that last year had the best offensive season in history, and that kinda helps his stats. Cassell will not play as well next year with lesser talent; he's not the missing piece to bring a 2-14 team into playoff contention.
You don't understand how the system works or this league thinks despite repeated efforts to explain it to you...they wouldn't be paying him as the 3rd highest paid player in the league...

Deion Branch wasn't remotely a top 5 WR in this league (maybe not a top 32 absent Brady) and yet the Seahawks who needed someone who could at least run the right route and then CATCH THE DAMN BALL traded a #1 for the priviledge of bestowing a top 5 contract on him...

John Abraham wasn't playing like a top 5 DE in the league and hated his team when they back to back tagged him at 120% more than top 5 value so they could trade him to a team who thought even with Vick under center a DE would somehow make them a contender. He didn't, but he got his long term deal with more guaranteed money than the tag from Atlanta anyway...and the JETS (who wanted Shaub and a pick) got a late round #1 from Atlanta and once Atlanta hired a former Patriots personnel director to hire them a competent HC and install a new culture and system and draft a franchise QB - having Abraham on the roster has worked out nicely...

If Cassel is signed to be a starter in this league he will be looking at a 5 or 6 year deal worth anywhere from $35-45M+ incentives with upwards of $17-20M guaranteed and the opportunity to be a franchise's starter capable of earning all of his deal and more...

He may not be the missing piece, but he's a lot more polished and experienced than any drafted QB (particularly in a draft predicted to feature little at the position) or jag who was drafted elsewhere and has bounced around the league mastering no system, or some aging veteran with no longterm upside. QB is the hardest position on the field to draft for and the one without which despite all your best roster building efforts elsewhere you got no legit shot. Just ask Tennessee who drafted Vince Young to front a dominating defense and got nowhere until they replaced him with a veteran who's downside is he will be aging out of the league at the end of this season while demanding a double digit guaranteed extension to remain an option for them.
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I love how this board underscores daily that reading is a lost art...
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I love how this board underscores daily that reading is a lost art...
True enough, but then some folks don't have the same time or patience we do to peruse every thread or even every post in a thread, I don't mind reading a pertinent if uninformed question.
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