How do we keep the jets from getting Cassel next year? - Page 3 - New England Patriots Forums

BradyManny · 11-14-2008, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Miguel

If I were Matt Cassel I would be interested in getting as much money as possible while going to a good team. If I were Matt Cassel I would want my new team to be in the best place possible to surround myself with talent. That is, I would not want my new team to trade for me because I want my new team to have all of its draft picks.

Therefore, I would employ the following tactics.
If the Patriots tag me, I would hold a press conference stating that I have appreciated my time with the Patriots and that I have benefited greatly by being on the Patriots. But it is time for me to move on. I will like to be a winner. I can better my chances of winning is by not helping the best team of the past several years get more draft choices as Scott Pioli and Bill Belichick are among the league's best, if not the best, in drafting. Therefore, I will not agree to a trade until after the 2009 draft and if the Pats have not rescinded their tag I will sign the franchise tender the day after of the draft and play for the Pats during the 2009 season. I am hoping this declaration will compel the Pats to rescind their tag so I can move on.

Can the Pats afford to have over $29 million in cap space tied up in two QBs during the first several weeks of free agency???That is THE question.

But can't the Pats work out a trade without Cassel signing the tender anyway? I thought this was the case as we discussed this scenario during the Asante holdout. I don't think Cassel is going to care much if the Pats get compensated with draft picks or not, he probably - like the rest of the sporting world - just wants to know he has a paycheck.

***Miguel*** · 11-14-2008, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by JR4

I think best thing for PATs and Cassel is to come to some mutual beneficial
agreement before threats and statements are made public.

Tagging Cassel is a public statement by the Pats that they want to control where he goes. I have no problem with a player publicly stating that he wants to control where he goes. It is fair. It is just business.

billdog3484 · 11-14-2008, 08:48 AM

im not totally knowledgeable of the way this would work, but theres no way we let this guy go without getting at least a 2nd round pick. we will probably try to franchise him then trade him eaerly in the offseason

***Miguel*** · 11-14-2008, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by JR4

Also one disadvantage for Cassel in holding out until AFTER the 2009 draft is some teams may solve their QB issue by drafting a QB. This would limit where he might end up.

It would be within the rules for Cassel to talk to a team and come to a mutual agreement on contract terms and for that team to then wait for the Pats to rescind the offer. A gamble but if the Pats are willing to tag Cassel at that high price that says something good about Cassel to other teams.

billdog3484 · 11-14-2008, 08:49 AM

i think the cassel situation is differnet than Asante because we promised not to tag him

***Miguel*** · 11-14-2008, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by BradyManny2344

But can't the Pats work out a trade without Cassel signing the tender anyway? I thought this was the case as we discussed this scenario during the Asante holdout. I don't think Cassel is going to care much if the Pats get compensated with draft picks or not, he probably - like the rest of the sporting world - just wants to know he has a paycheck.

If Cassel is about the paycheck and he is traded to another team without his signing the tender, then his next logical step would be to sign the tender and gain the upper hand in contract negotiations with his new team. I just do not think that a team would trade for Cassel without him agreeing to a contract with them.

BradyManny · 11-14-2008, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Miguel

If Cassel is about the paycheck and he is traded to another team without his signing the tender, then his next logical step would be to sign the tender and gain the upper hand in contract negotiations with his new team. I just do not think that a team would trade for Cassel without him agreeing to a contract with them.

But hypothetically, something could be worked out in the advantage of both the Patriots and Cassel without him ever signing the tender, and the Patriots - even temporarily - allocating 14 million to him? The team would have to agree to a contract w Cassel, the Pats would have to agree to terms w the team in trade, and Cassel would have to cooperate and be OK with the team to which he was being shipped, and the contract he'd receive.

***Rob0729*** · 11-14-2008, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Miguel

If I were Matt Cassel I would be interested in getting as much money as possible while going to a good team. If I were Matt Cassel I would want my new team to be in the best place possible to surround myself with talent. That is, I would not want my new team to trade for me because I want my new team to have all of its draft picks.

Therefore, I would employ the following tactics.
If the Patriots tag me, I would hold a press conference stating that I have appreciated my time with the Patriots and that I have benefited greatly by being on the Patriots. But it is time for me to move on. I will like to be a winner. I can better my chances of winning is by not helping the best team of the past several years get more draft choices as Scott Pioli and Bill Belichick are among the league's best, if not the best, in drafting. Therefore, I will not agree to a trade until after the 2009 draft and if the Pats have not rescinded their tag I will sign the franchise tender the day after of the draft and play for the Pats during the 2009 season. I am hoping this declaration will compel the Pats to rescind their tag so I can move on.

Can the Pats afford to have over $29 million in cap space tied up in two QBs during the first several weeks of free agency???That is THE question.

The one thing going for the Pats is that the 49ers would be one of the most likely trade partners in a tag and trade situation. Cassel grew up a 49ers fan. He might not be opposed to a tag and trade if the Pats speak to him and say they will do the best effort to get him to a team of his choice most notably the 49ers.

mac · 11-14-2008, 09:08 AM

The Patriot way would be to keep Cassell and trade Brady to Brady's hometown 49ers, thus repleshing the Pats with high picks and perhaps Willis.

TheGodInAGreyHoodie · 11-14-2008, 09:10 AM

Cassel will sign with a team several months before Farve decides if he is returning to the Jets next year. No worries.