Rob0729

The Pats have won ugly, but they haven't almost lost to a team as bad as the Chiefs who were lead by Tyler Thigpen who the Jets allowed to complete 69.4% of his passes for 280 yards and 2 TDs and no INTs. That guy sucks. Also, the Pats haven't had a three game stretch where they struggled against three of the worst teams in the league in a long, long time.

I was just countering that the Jets are playing well. The Jets have as many or more flaws than the Patriots. They struggle against the pass as much as the Pats, they can't run the ball effectively and consistently, Favre turns over the ball far too much, etc. That is not playing well at least when you compare them to the Pats.

mcgraw_wv

That Denver win wasn't impressive???

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There's a pretty consistent group of people making the complaints week after week. It doesn't change much when the team is winning, either, because they find individual issues to complain about. Even when they are proven wrong, they just lie in the weeds and bring up the same disproved arguments time and again.

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Rob0729

Yeah, if Robinson's prediction is that in a week from now that the Pats are 7-3, I cannot see the Pats going worse than 3-3 down the stretch. They don't have the easiest schedule, but it definitely isn't the hardest.

I actually think the Pats win against the Cards if nothing else that it is an East Coast game at 1 PM in December. The Cards are not a great road team and have shown they struggle quite a bit with the time zone difference of the East Coast.

I think the Seahawks will have packed it in by the time the Pats meet them with a lame duck HC. The thing the Hawks have going for them is that it is in their stadium (but will the crowd be a factor with how bad they are).

I also think they beat at least Oakland. So if Robinson is right about 7-3, that is 10-6 right there. I still think this team can go 11-5 or 12-4.

Rob0729

Some people are never happy unless the Pats are undefeated and winning by three TDs. Even then there are still the lunatic fringe who complain.

I see improvements on both sides of the ball week after week on this team. Not that there aren't things that need to be improved, but the Pats seem to getting stronger as the season goes along. While other teams are peaking or have already peaked. That means the Pats have a really good shot at playing their best football in December and hopefully January. I am still cautiously optimistic.

bostonia3333

10-6 is the best possible scenario for the Pats. I think 9-7 is more realistic. Home to Pitt, @ Buffalo, @ MIA, home to ARIZ, and home to NYJ are all extremely tough matchups given the health status of our team


This is what I envision happening over the next 3 weeks.

Pats win over Buffalo comfortably by 7 pts. No need for beta blockers or defibrillators this weekend. Nice afternoon game to just chill.

Pats win a cardiac game against Broadway Brett

Pats are outclassed in Miami 27-10

The Miami loss won't matter, I expect the Fins to win this division. The key is to win this tiebreaker advantage with the Jets because if the Pats finish 9-7 and so do NYJ, Pats are in and Jets are out. Of course thanks to Jabar, we have Indy lurking so we need to keep an eye on them in the second half.

PatsWickedPissah

Several of the dirty dozen are currently lying in the weeds posting less. Just wait until Cassel actually has his bad game of the season throwing 3 picks and we lose. Expect LOTS of sudden posts. I blame the fantasy Football mentality.

I'm optimistic about Sunday and the season, though concerned about our lack of health at RB and DB.

BPF

Where are you getting your info??:

Pats are #16 vs pass, ahead of Jets and Dolphins and slightly behind the Bills in the middle of the pack:
NFL Stats: by Team Category

and also the Pats are the 7th best rushing team in the league, which is pretty damn good especially considering all the injuries sustained at RB:
NFL Stats: by Team Category

The Jets had a lack of rush until recently as well, then they started blitzing more. I believe the Pats will do the same in the 2nd half of the season and with Seymour coming on strong and getting back to BigSey of old the defense will improve coming down the stretch.

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Rob0729

Sssssssshhhhhhhhhhh!!!!! Facts are not allowed in an argument with Faux Pats Fans. Otherwise, their overly negative rants that aren't supported by anything other than their extreme dislike for the Pats look really silly. We don't want that to happen.

BTW, the crappy Pats' rushing offense has the most yards out of any team in the AFC East.

BPF

What's stopped them from taking away Cassel's short passes to this point?? Fact is with Randy Moss teams have to play at least one safety over the top at all times to take him away. Also you might want to check the numbers on Cassel he's right there in terms of avg pass with Favre, Roethlisberger, Eli and Peyton Manning and the star everyone wanted to bring in to replace him Garcia: NFL Stats: by Player Category

Your have no facts to back your weak arguments, if you want to be and stay negative become a Raiders or Lions fan.

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