spacecrime

We were close. We'd guessed $14 Mil, and I average your numbers to be $14,651,483.00

That's why talk of franchising Cassel is so silly.

MoLewisrocks

Nope. Exclusive tag is top 5 paid in the current year and nobody can talk to him. Franchise tag is top 5 paid in the previous year and he can talk to anyone but if they sign him to an offer sheet the compensation is 2 #1's. That hasn't happened in ages. If a team tags a player to trade him they negotiate compensation with the team they want to trade with and if the player and that team can agree on a contract the player gets traded.

Transition tag just gives the tagging team a week to match any offer sheet the player signs while guaranteeing him top 10 average paid in the previous year if he is not signed to a new deal (no one offers him one including the team who tagged him) and is retained.

ctpatsfan77

And, to wit, there is no compensation for a transition tag.

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MoLewisrocks

Only if you don't trade him...

Again, if you trade him to another team they wouldn't have to pay him $14M+ for one year, and if he's viewed as a bonefide starter in March 2009 he will get that and more from his new team on a long term deal... What a team would be trading for in that instance is the exclusive right to sign him rather than having to compete for him on the open market. Given the dearth of functional young QB's in this league why waste a #1 or #2 on an untested draft QB (of whom there may be none projected anyway in 2009) when you can have a battle tested Belichick trained Brady mentored proven starter...duh.

Again, he will set his market over the course of the next 12 weeks or so. And Belioli will know exactly what that market is. And if they believe he's worth some day 1 picks they will want to capitalize on that.

Miguel

Hok is correct.

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jmt57

You really think he would get that much on the open market? You have to remember Hugh Millen is out of a job and Al Davis already has JaMarcus Russell . . .

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xmarkd400x

Who needs a QB in 2009, and might trade a #1 pick for him?

I'd say at least 7 teams:

Detriot Lions
New York Jets (Favre won't be around for long)
Houston Texans
San Fran 49ers
Chicago Bears (Depending on how Orton pans out)
Minnesota Vikings
Kansas City Chiefs

spacecrime

That's all good if you trade him. But if Cassel has any brains, and he does, he'll sign that tag the microsecond it is offered. Then he is guaranteed 14.6 mil, and if for any reason the Pats can't trade him, they are on the hook for his salary.

In order to trade him for a day one pick, three things must happen:

1. The other team must believe he is worth a day one pick, and
2. Cassel must agree to be traded to that team (if he doesn't want to go to the Lions or the Chiefs, he simply refuses to do a deal, gets his $14 mil for 2009 and is a free agent in 2010), and
3. Cassel (or his agent) and the trading team must come to an agreement as to his worth. If Cassel or his agent think he is worth more on the open market than the trading team is willing to pay, there will be no trade.

I disagree with the idea that the Pats must get something for him. They are getting a year of terrific QB play for peanuts in salary. If they want to give him starter's pay this year, then fine, try to get compensation when he leaves. But if they lowball him on salary this year, they owe it to him to cut ties and let him be a FA.

Urgent

Hey, this is fun.
It's sort of like singing a round from camp.

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Miguel

Serious offers for Cassel yet? [mergedx2]

If Cassel plays like a competent NFL starter...

If you are including me in the we, then we were indeed close

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