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ScottieC · 10-16-2008, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by KontradictioN

Sign Ed Reed in 2010!!!

EDIT: Isn't there only going to be ONE uncapped year?

I agree. I believe that Ed Reed will be a Patriot some day. Lets hope it's while he's got something in the tank and not just a broke down pick up that satisfies Bill's desire to coach him.

***mgteich*** · 10-16-2008, 11:33 AM

This means that the league and the union have until March 2010 to negotiate a new agreement or else 2010 is uncapped with restrictions on the top four in each division playoffs.

***alamo*** · 10-16-2008, 11:47 AM

No one has mentioned the fact that it will be tougher for players to become a free agent, the time before UFA increases from 4 to 6 years. I am pretty sure 6th year players will be restricted free agents like 4th year players are now, though I am not certain offhand whether 4th and 5th year players will be RFA or exclusive rights.

I believe the reason the final year under the CBA is uncapped, rather than letting it expire and then being uncapped, is because upon expiration the same rules as currently in effect stay in effect.

***patchick*** · 10-16-2008, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by alamo

No one has mentioned the fact that it will be tougher for players to become a free agent, the time before UFA increases from 4 to 6 years.

Yep -- the uncapped year isn't just an unfettered bonanza for the players. It's more of an all-around mess, and in fact was designed that way to get both sides back to the bargaining table.

If the uncapped year happens in 2010, the league risks utter chaos for 2011; a work stoppage is one real possibility. Root hard for a resolution before the end of next year.

***mgteich*** · 10-16-2008, 11:55 AM

I don't believe that the union will play with no CBA in effect. An uncapped year is part of the current agreement.

upstater1 · 10-16-2008, 11:58 AM

This sounds like a NHL scenario, weak union head, undercut by players, owners take advantage, take substantial losses.

And in an atmosphere with a very bad economy, it's not a bad time for owners to lock players out. The NBA just fired 100 people from its offices because of fewer ticket sales. When your revenues are declining, that's obviously the best time for a lockout.

This will end badly for the players.

***fgssand*** · 10-16-2008, 12:03 PM

Nobody knows the effect of current economic conditions Will have on revenue stream of the NFL moving forward.

Until things calm down a bit and hopefully return to normal, there is no way negotiations can take place.

I don't see how any good faith negotiating can possibly take place until at least next year, after a new NFLPA head is in place and hopefully a new commissioner (wishful thinking)

dtbrks · 10-16-2008, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by PatsWickedPissah

Call me a bandwagon fan, but if the NFL becomes MLB, I'll lose interest. I remember the old Pats years where we were uncompetitive because the Sullivans lacked finances (as well as football common sense). Having seen the strong competitive advantage that money can bring in MLB, the crappy attitudes of migrant worker players, bad performances following big no cut contracts, I won't waste my time or emotions following guys that the next season will be NY Jets, Colts or something.

I agree to some extend, but look at the yanks.. they haven't won anything in a long while with highest payroll.

Tampa Bay Rays: Could be world series bound with one of the lowest payrolls.

Money doesn't guarantee success.

Pats726 · 10-16-2008, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by mgteich

This means that the league and the union have until March 2010 to negotiate a new agreement or else 2010 is uncapped with restrictions on the top four in each division playoffs.

My only question is that what are the chances of getting a CBA if it's not done by early 09?? Won't that change a lot of free agency and bring in a lot of underclassmen in the draft?? Just trying to see how there's any advantage to not getting it done sooner rather than later?? I do agree going forward it will be a mess...Are there other posion pills??

Pats726 · 10-16-2008, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ctpatsfan77

There will be one uncapped year before the CBA expires.

More importantly, those limitations I mentioned above state that the eight teams that make the divisional playoffs for 2009 are restricted in their ability to sign UFAs in the offseason before the 2010 season. Basically, what happens is this:

(A) Those eight teams are allowed to replace UFAs lost in FA, but the new UFAs cannot be signed to larger contracts than the ones signed by the UFAs they lose.
(B) The four teams that lose in the divisional playoffs can sign additional UFAs beyond the rules in (A), but are strictly limited in the contracts they can offer.
(C) The four teams that win in the divisional playoffs CANNOT sign additional players beyond the rules in (A).
(D) If a team cannot sign a player as a UFA under the above provisions, that team CANNOT acquire that player via trade, either.
(E) There are no limitations on players re-signing with their own team, or signing players released on waivers.

When will these go into effect...in 09?? 10? How eill NOT having a CBA influence the FA market and draft of next year? ARe there other restrictions or other poisin pills that will be in effect next year? 10?