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Old 09-12-2008, 11:39 AM   #21
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I wonder why the myth has been allowed to perpetuate itself. Does it just sound better that way? I admit that I'm guilty of not knowing this, which, considering that I'm usually really good about researching something before I post, makes me feel like an ass now.
I believed it too. Makes Brady seem even more the unlikely hero. But apparently not.
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Old 09-12-2008, 11:58 AM   #22
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He's felt that way for 2 years now.
Completely different analysis. For two years he's felt that Cassel is the best option for the 2d quarterback. That's another whole calculation that takes a lot more into account.

I'm not debating that BB thinks Cassel this week is the best option to win. I'm just debating whether that means as much as people seem to think.
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Old 09-12-2008, 12:03 PM   #23
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I was reading about Cassell today in some of the local (NYC) news rags. Actually he is an interesting guy.. He to me at least gave the aura of nerd - ala the Mannings. But he is more a true jock type - he was thought of as a Lynch type in HS and played some safety. His brothers are pro baseball players..

He is an all-around athlete much like Connell. So all hope is not lost with Cassell. He does bring an athletic dimension that Tom does not - plus he is smart and has a big arm. You can see why he was drafted..

Smart, Big Arm, good athlete.. He just didn't get to play much. I think he is closer to Ray Lucas then people realize. We could win some games with his all-around play.

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Old 09-12-2008, 12:08 PM   #24
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I wonder why the myth has been allowed to perpetuate itself. Does it just sound better that way? I admit that I'm guilty of not knowing this, which, considering that I'm usually really good about researching something before I post, makes me feel like an ass now.
I think it's because of the ludicrous promises college coaches make to players before they step foot on campus.

The whole situation was unfair, and this was the bone idiot Lloyd threw to Henson.

Matt Gutierrez suffered similarly when Lloyd promised the world to Chad Henne.

College coaches sometimes make bad decisions when it comes to the QB situation.

Don't feel dumb that people highlight the ridiculous of Carr's decision rather than the actuality of it.
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Old 09-12-2008, 12:33 PM   #25
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Being a starter in college and first round pick really doesn't mean much.

Ryan Leaf was a #1 pick.

Heath Shuler was a #1 pick.

Todd Marinovich was a #1 pick.

Patrick Ramsey was a #1 pick.

Andre Ware was a #1 pick.

Akili Smith was a #1 pick.

David Klingler was a #1 pick.

...I can keep going with this, but I think you get my point.
you forgot , david carr,alex smith, joey harrington,kyle boller,j.p. losman,rex grossman,
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you forgot , david carr,alex smith, joey harrington,kyle boller,j.p. losman,rex grossman,
In fairness, I did say I could keep going
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Old 09-12-2008, 04:19 PM   #27
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All you point out may be true, but he still hasn't started a game since high school.
He started 3 games in the pre-season. After a breif appearance by Brady in the Miami game he played 3+ Qtrs. The only thing he hasn't done since HS is start and complete a game.
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Matt Cassel hasn't started a regular season game since 1999. Some people think that playing games actually helps improve one's skill set.

Cassel backed up Heisman trophy winners at USC (with Chow as coach) and Brady in the NFL. I would argue that he may be qualified to be the Assistant Quarterback Coach.

He MAY do fine at QB. But he hasn't actually played the position since High School.
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He also played tight end at USC...he is athletic.,,and he can run when needed.
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Old 09-13-2008, 10:26 AM   #30
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Has anyone braught up the fact that, thus far (and I'm looking at the '05 Miami game and last Sunday) Cassell has had more success at the NFL level than the guy that kept him on the bench at USC, Hollywood Matt Leinart?
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