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Old 09-02-2008, 05:23 PM   #1
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Not really predctions here, but what type of surprises do you think are not that far-fetched. Here are a few to start with.

Ventrone as a capable WR. I don't know why you cannot convert a S to WR and have no chance of it working. With the firepower we have on offense, I could easily see taking the narrowest levels of skills he has and only using him in those roles, and getting production (i.e. limited to the routes he most excels at on 3rd downs). Entirely possible he may not catch a pass all year either, but neither end of the spectrum would shock me.

Pierre Woods getting a lot of PT and contributing.
We consistiently use OLBs as DEs in nickel and dime. One of those DEs, Thomas can also be effective in a coverage spot in those situations, and both OLBs could use some breathers from being 3 and sometimes 4 down players.
Woods has an awful lot of opportunity to get on the field a lot. The question is how does the coaching staff fell about using him consistently as a 3rd down DE, and/or subbing in the base to keep AD and Vrabel fresh.

Those are 2 to get the topic started.
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Old 09-02-2008, 05:28 PM   #2
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Not really predctions here, but what type of surprises do you think are not that far-fetched. Here are a few to start with.

Ventrone as a capable WR. I don't know why you cannot convert a S to WR and have no chance of it working. With the firepower we have on offense, I could easily see taking the narrowest levels of skills he has and only using him in those roles, and getting production (i.e. limited to the routes he most excels at on 3rd downs). Entirely possible he may not catch a pass all year either, but neither end of the spectrum would shock me.
Pierre Woods getting a lot of PT and contributing.
We consistiently use OLBs as DEs in nickel and dime. One of those DEs, Thomas can also be effective in a coverage spot in those situations, and both OLBs could use some breathers from being 3 and sometimes 4 down players.
Woods has an awful lot of opportunity to get on the field a lot. The question is how does the coaching staff fell about using him consistently as a 3rd down DE, and/or subbing in the base to keep AD and Vrabel fresh.

Those are 2 to get the topic started.
He made the roster over Jackson and CJ Jones is a ST's body until Faulk is activated. Ventrone could be that WR/FB hybrid that catches and blocks too.

I think he holds his own.
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He made the roster over Jackson and CJ Jones is a ST's body until Faulk is activated. Ventrone could be that WR/FB hybrid that catches and blocks too.

I think he holds his own.
I think its more likely that he barely plays on offense, and is a special teamer---like Washington last year. Thats why I'd call him producing a surprise, but not one that would shock me.
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I think L Jordan will Make more of an impact with the Pats then a lot of people might be thinking. I could see him taking a lot snaps away from Faulk. Of course if the O line does not get healthy?
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Not really predctions here, but what type of surprises do you think are not that far-fetched. Here are a few to start with.

Ventrone as a capable WR. I don't know why you cannot convert a S to WR and have no chance of it working. With the firepower we have on offense, I could easily see taking the narrowest levels of skills he has and only using him in those roles, and getting production (i.e. limited to the routes he most excels at on 3rd downs). Entirely possible he may not catch a pass all year either, but neither end of the spectrum would shock me.

Pierre Woods getting a lot of PT and contributing.
We consistiently use OLBs as DEs in nickel and dime. One of those DEs, Thomas can also be effective in a coverage spot in those situations, and both OLBs could use some breathers from being 3 and sometimes 4 down players.
Woods has an awful lot of opportunity to get on the field a lot. The question is how does the coaching staff fell about using him consistently as a 3rd down DE, and/or subbing in the base to keep AD and Vrabel fresh.

Those are 2 to get the topic started.
I too, think Woods will get a lot of playing time. And his production will surprise many......
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I think L Jordan will Make more of an impact with the Pats then a lot of people might be thinking. I could see him taking a lot snaps away from Faulk. Of course if the O line does not get healthy?
I could easily see Faulk getting phased out, because I think this may be his last year here, due to his contract status.
That said, Faulk has been so effective and reliable in the 2 minute offense, that it would be hard to exclude him too.
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I could easily see Faulk getting phased out, because I think this may be his last year here, due to his contract status.
That said, Faulk has been so effective and reliable in the 2 minute offense, that it would be hard to exclude him too.

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Jordan can block, but I think faulk beats him there. I am not saying Faulk is going anywhere, Faulk has been money for ever.
I have always liked Jordan as a RB, given the right situation he could be a nasty change of pace/short yardage guy. IMHO
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Not really predctions here, but what type of surprises do you think are not that far-fetched. Here are a few to start with.

Ventrone as a capable WR. I don't know why you cannot convert a S to WR and have no chance of it working. With the firepower we have on offense, I could easily see taking the narrowest levels of skills he has and only using him in those roles, and getting production (i.e. limited to the routes he most excels at on 3rd downs). Entirely possible he may not catch a pass all year either, but neither end of the spectrum would shock me.

Pierre Woods getting a lot of PT and contributing.
We consistiently use OLBs as DEs in nickel and dime. One of those DEs, Thomas can also be effective in a coverage spot in those situations, and both OLBs could use some breathers from being 3 and sometimes 4 down players.
Woods has an awful lot of opportunity to get on the field a lot. The question is how does the coaching staff fell about using him consistently as a 3rd down DE, and/or subbing in the base to keep AD and Vrabel fresh.

Those are 2 to get the topic started.
vetrone is a game. he is extremely quick for 6 ft.

i don't share the same love for pierre. seems like a nice guy. i think he'll be functional and can help with the qb pressure(which he should have done in 4th quarter of the SB) but i won't be shocked when crable surpasses him.
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He made the roster over Jackson and CJ Jones is a ST's body until Faulk is activated. Ventrone could be that WR/FB hybrid that catches and blocks too.

I think he holds his own.
how is he going to play fb at 200 pounds? that's an injury waiting to happen. he's a slot rcvr if anything
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