slash83

http://www.nfl.com/kickoff/story;jse...o&confirm=true

1. Albert Haynesworth, Tennessee Titans

2. Tommie Harris, Chicago Bears

3. Kevin Williams, Minnesota Vikings

4. Richard Seymour, New England Patriot

5. Ty Warren, New England Patriots

6. Jamal Williams, San Diego Chargers

Honorable mention: Vince Wilfork, New England; Pat Williams, Minnesota; John Henderson, Jacksonville; Marcus Stroud, Buffalo; Kris Jenkins, New York Jets; Aaron Smith, Pittsburgh and Shaun Rogers, Cleveland.

This guy cant be for real, Wilfork is better then Jamal Williams anyday of the week. Where the hells Casey Hampton and Haloti Ngata id take them over Jenkns and Rogers any dam day this guys clueless man.

Oops Kirwan oh well

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spacecrime

Not to mention Wilfork is better than Seymour

BPF

I love Wilfork but Jamal Williams is pretty damn good player, it's a close call between the two. Also regarding Casey Hampton, he showed up to camp overweight this year and he is in danger of losing his starting job, the Steelers are extremely dissapointed with him. Ngata is a bit young and hasn't done enough yet to be the choice over these vets. Don't forget Jenkins was a dominator at one point. I agree with you on Rogers, a bit overrated - you never know which player will show up with him, the fat and lazy out of shape guy or the load that's impossible to block. Too inconsistent to be a top player for me.

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STH since 1994....sec 236

BPF

It's very hard to compare these guys since they play in completely different defenses as well and are asked to do a lot of different things.

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STH since 1994....sec 236

BPF

Over the last two years, yes.

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STH since 1994....sec 236

slash83

Yeah Ima pats fan and Jamal is a great player but I gotta go with Wilfork over him just cause Jamals had a couple of knee surgeries over the last couple of years and is a couple years older then Wilfork to. Both are great players tho top two NT's in football imo.

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HEY BRO! WHAT UP?

When are people going to realize that Seymour and Warren are not a DT's! I guess they think Wilfork plays end, that is why he is not on the list.

LeonPowe

They aren't DTs, and Wilfork is better than both anyways

Brady'sButtBoy

Why does it now require that we condemn others before we give differing opinions? Slash83, is this how you conduct your every day life? God help those close to you if so.

BTW, Williams has been an all-pro 2 times (2nd team once also) and has gone to the pro bowl 3 times, while our own Vince Wilfork has been all-pro and pro bowl bound just once. Obviously, only an idiot could deduce Williams was better...

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slash83

shut the hell up you dont even know me so dont come at me like that. Talk all the **** you want on a board you cyber tough guy.

Wilfork is better then Williams go ask anybody that knows about football who they would take right now then get back to me chump.

And Kirwan is and idiot sey and warren arent even dts to begin with and wilfork is better then both of em.

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