Rob0729

Did the Pats really need to cheat or steal a gameplan to know that if you hit Faulk, Holt, and Bruce on every play that they would turtle?

KontradictioN

That's fine. But some high ranking official within the organization needed to come up and say something. Look at the Saints. They came up and immediately clobbered the media with Bountygate. How many times have you heard about that (the more recent scandal) lately as compared to Spygate? Because, to me, we've all heard a lot more about Spygate lately than Bountygate. A lot of that has to do with fans and media running wild with a lie. The least the Patriots organization could have done was get their viewpoint (which is the truth) out there in the wake of the scandal. Instead, they didn't. The result is that, to this day, we still hear the same lies over and over again and those lies make national news.

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Jackson 2

I have said this before and I'll say it again: when you fail to respond and defend yourself it's logical for both the accusers and the observers to conclude that what you're accused of is the truth.

patfanken

I'm a "homer" and I have no problem with your take on this. In fact I think you are right.

Personally I'm tired of having to defend the Pats from morons like Faulk on a regular basis. About the only joy a Jet fan has these days, is to tweak Pats fans with "Cheater talk". That's not MY job. Its about time the team stood up and defended itself. Look a what a comprehensive defense did for the Saints. They got a lot of people to think they didn't run a bounty program.

Given the fact 24% of the country believes God picks the playoff winners it wouldn't take much of a defense to make some headway.

Boomer B

My hope is that next time they see each other at the NFL Network studios that Willie McGinest plants Faulk on ass just like he did back in that Super Bowl

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Palm Beach Pats Fan

play-by-play:

USATODAY.com - Super Bowl XXXVI play-by-play

1 redzone possession for StL, 1 TD.

All 3rd down stops by NE for the entire game:

3rd and 18 from the SL 49: K.Warner pass to M.Faulk to NE 40 for 11 yards. Punt.

3rd and 3 from the NE 32: K.Warner pass incomplete to R. Proehl. made FG

3rd and 5 from the NE 34: K.Warner pass incomplete to A.Hakim. FG missed.

3rd and 1 from the 50: K.Warner pass incomplete to R.Proehl. Punt

3rd and 17 from the NE 48: K.Warner pass incomplete. Punt

3rd and 5 from the NE 45: K.Warner pass intended for T.Holt INTERCEPTED by O.Smith at NE 37. O.Smith to SL 33 for 30 yards.

3rd and 20 from the NE 49: K.Warner pass incomplete to T.Holt (O.Smith)


summary:
one 3rd down stopped by INT
three stopped, as expected, on 3rd and 17 or more yards
two stopped on 3rd and 5 attempts (a distance that favors the D)

So it would seem that the two 3rd and short incompletions to Proehl were really the Rams only really good 3rd down shots at keeping a drive alive. Making two stops is cheating. OK. Or maybe you can run it on 3rd and 1 from midfield, you pansy.

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Jackson 2

I understand what you're saying, but Willie shouldn't have to do it. The wimps running this effing organization should have had the balls to do it the minute they were accused. I'm guessing very few of Kraft's contemporaries accuse him and his team of being cheaters. Rather, it's been left to us chumps, the fans, to bear the brunt of this BS all the time and in particular every year at SB time. And in case any of you think the rest of the country is past this and thinks Faulk and others like him are wrong, check the comments, likes and dislikes on the PFT piece. Or, better yet, walk into a bar any place outside of NE with a Pats hat or jacket on and see what happens. This organization has left the fans holding the bag and should be ashamed of itself.

SVN

Send this to curran. But no one really does much research these days.

scott99

I feel bad for Marshall Faulk, it must suck being so dumb, and so misinformed.

Steve:Section 102

Perhaps Faulk would be better served being pissed at Mike Martz' arrogance and playing right into Belichick's hands.

I really do sort of feel sorry for him. Just can't get over it. Feels the pain of the loss stinging him to this day. Oh wait... I am not sorry. That's why I love the Pats, Marshall, because eleven freakin' years later, you're still cryin' about it like it was last Sunday!

one more thing...

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