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Old 02-07-2013, 07:08 AM   #191
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I'd love to add a physical WR like Emanuel Sanders or Boldin to this team.
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Old 02-07-2013, 07:26 AM   #192
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But at 10 mill, it is bye to Vollmer and Talib.

I believe Welker is slowing down, this is what I see, not read in a stat line. Every player has to go at some time and if Welker goes this year to keep Vollmer and Talib I am ok with it.

I would not mind seeing Gibson here and Endleman back. Welker IMO will not be here for the final (3?) years of Brady's career anyway, and I rather move now and keep the other Vollmer and Talib.

There is also a lot of talk on Ravens boards that Jacoby Jones may need to be cut.
He would be a great acquisition - you've got your deep threat and returner all in one.
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Old 02-07-2013, 08:48 AM   #193
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He would be a great acquisition - you've got your deep threat and returner all in one.
He's not that great of a deep player despite his highlight catches this year
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But in the playoffs a good team at 99% will not beat emotional, talented teams that play at 100%. It's what happened against the Giants in 2011 and the Ravens in 2012.
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Old 02-07-2013, 11:15 AM   #194
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Maybe not, but he's still better than anyone we have now.

And as Supafly stated to B-to-M, it's not a matter of dumping Welker, it's just a matter of
being able to afford him while at the same time having enough cap flexability to address
all of our other needs, including re-signing Vollmer & Talib (or a reasonable facsimile thereof).
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There is also a lot of talk on Ravens boards that Jacoby Jones may need to be cut.
It's possible, but it's still hard to get much of a read on how the Ravens plan to handle some of these pacts.

Jones said today that he wants to retire there, so a restructure or even pay cut may be more in the works than cutting him.

I suppose it will have a lot to do with how they handle Boldin. This quote was from today, courtesy of Mike Florio and PFT:

“I want to retire here,” Jones said during an appearance Wednesday, via the Baltimore Sun.

But the man who landed on the cover of Sports Illustrated and who could have been named Super Bowl XLVII MVP realizes he’s a “role player” in Baltimore. He soon could be playing the role of reducing his cap number for 2013.

While some have speculated that Jones could be cut (really?), the more likely reality is that Jones will receive a contract extension that would give him security while also creating cap space in the coming league year. He’s due to receive a $1 million roster bonus in March, along with a $3 million base salary."
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Jones is not the answer. Great returner and recipient of two very, very, timely fortunate blown coverages.
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Hearing the Bills won't retain Donald Jones, whos restricted but yet won't be retained. Add him to the list of bargain FA's at WR worth taking a look at??
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Hearing the Bills won't retain Donald Jones, whos restricted but yet won't be retained. Add him to the list of bargain FA's at WR worth taking a look at??
Not quite what most of us had in mind, although we did have another Youngstown guy work out in the past for awhile. His name was David Givens (born there).

Belichick lived there himself growing up and recently donated over 50k to one of their local high schools for equipment, so the Y-town connection is interesting, although I'm certainly not claiming that I'd give anything to that, just thought I'd bring it up.

As far as actual talent though, my fear would be that Donald Jones just wouldn't draw many looks from Brady, although he does have some viable 4.46 speed to work with. At 6'0", he isn't quite as small as some of the other WRs, but he also isn't big enough where that aspect would come into play much.

If Belichick decides to bring him in for a look to fill out and improve the bottom spots of the WR corps, then I personally wouldn't have much of a problem with it. I just don't see how he'd be much more of anything than a WR4 or WR5, which would make him the 6th/7th/8th option (depending upon how you would rank the RB options on the pass).

He may provide more youth and speed than Branch of course at that lower end WR slot, but then again we'd lose that all important chemistry that the 2 of them shared. Then again, we're going to lose that no matter what anyway.
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Jones is not the answer. Great returner and recipient of two very, very, timely fortunate blown coverages.
He is something that we don't have and it could be a combo win as it would mean he is not a raven.

He could be reworked but from what I gather he would be lower on the list of guys to sign. 1 being Ellebre, 2- mckennie, 3, reed, The 4mill they would save is more than they would in any other move.
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Anquan Boldin say's he'll retire if he's cut by the Ravens:

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