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Old 01-22-2013, 11:13 AM   #21
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Old 01-22-2013, 11:17 AM   #22
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I think there's a difference......the colts were nevere winning against the pats in those games back then....the pats pretty much had their foot on the colts head from the first 5 min of the game.

this one, the pats had the lead and stopped the ravens at the start of the 2nd half....I said to myself 'great' they're pretty much getting the ball as though they deferred.....they moved the ball down the field, and 1st and 10 at the ravens 34, stopped cold......ridley was running the ball well, but they had woodhead out there, then decided to go deep.....this is where the pats needed to do some force-feeding of the running game.....kill more time.....even if they had only gotten an FG, it would have changed the game completely........but the punt from the 34 showed the pats hand that they were playing not to lose, and it gave the ravens all the confidence they needed......

the pats simply screwed up.....made the wrong call......lacked confidence in themselves.........whatever you want to call it......the game ended there
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the punt from the 34 showed the pats hand that they were playing not to lose, and it gave the ravens all the confidence they needed......

the pats simply screwed up.....made the wrong call......lacked confidence in themselves.........whatever you want to call it......the game ended there
I would call it playing out of a "foxhole".
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Old 01-22-2013, 11:20 AM   #24
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I miss the days when our defense used to play physical. Watch this video from 2:51. Pats classics- 2003 AFC Championship vs Colts - YouTube
Spikes has been a nice physical presence but he needs some help from a safety and corner back.
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I think what we're seeing is just how difficult it is to build a defense like the Ravens or the Pats from the early 2000's. Tough, both physically and mentally, but skilled enough to make plays too. The Patriots were led by key players: Bruschi, McGinest, Vrabel, Harrison, Law, etc. Once those players were all gone, it's been hard to build a team like that again. Not because BB has "lost" anything, but it's just one of those things that's really hard to recreate.

I will be very curious to see what the Ravens become once Lewis and Reed are gone. They've still got good players, and you'd think they'll have the same attitude, but it's going to be just as hard for them to reach this level again as it has been for us. If they pull it off, kudos to them.
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I would call it playing out of a "foxhole".
yup.....BB had a quote like that the previous week......

in 2001 they damned the torpedoes.......they should have this time.....it is a telling decision to the opponent.....even if unseccessful, the ensuing exertion by the ravens on the pats would not have been as effective
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I'm not sure what he was watching then because it was pretty apparent that they were being much more physical with our receivers than any team had been throughout the season. Mangini saw the film and saw the same thing. A big bodied, physical wide receiver that can threaten every level of the field to go with the TE's and (hopefully) Welker would be just what the doctor ordered for this offense.
Isn't that what Lloyd does according to some??
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We're not going to get anywhere near Matt Elam.
Care to elaborate? He has a reputation for getting personal fouls, for trash talking after delivering devastating hits, and most of all for delivering those devastating hits.

He's smallish (5'10"), so there could be durability issues. I don't know of any of the off-field issues one often worries about with an Urban Meyer recruit, though.
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I'm not sure what he was watching then because it was pretty apparent that they were being much more physical with our receivers than any team had been throughout the season. Mangini saw the film and saw the same thing. A big bodied, physical wide receiver that can threaten every level of the field to go with the TE's and (hopefully) Welker would be just what the doctor ordered for this offense.
If you remember back to the regular season, they did exactly the same in that game. We all complained that the replacement refs lost control of the game. Apparently Goodell gave them the okay to mug our receivers, since it wasn't called this time either.

I guess hands to the face isn't as cut and dried as we thought it was.
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Isn't that what Lloyd does according to some??
Lloyd physical? Are we talking about Brandon?
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