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Old 01-22-2013, 09:42 AM   #11
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It's easy to see conspiracies when you're still recovering from an emotional loss that came in a fairly unexpected manner. More likely than an NFL fix, the Ravens are a tough, talented team and they just played better than the Pats did Sunday.

There were three plays that effectively killed the Pats chances in the second half, and none of them were effected by the refs: Welker's drop on 3rd down, Ridley's fumble (while he was probably blacked out), and the first interception that came on a tipped ball. If the NFL was fixing this game, the Pats may have been in on it.

I still think Ridley was down by contact.

I agree though that if the Ravens' DBs were playing rough and not being called then the Pats should have done likewise. That's one of the keys to them beating the Rams in 2001.

Are the Pats DBs not physical?
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Old 01-22-2013, 09:43 AM   #12
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You make good points. But NO points in the second half? come on while
Ravens D is good they are not that good. We have all seen PATs make
mistakes like you mentioned but come back stronger to over come.
(SF game to wit )
So the fact that the Pats actually lost a game indicates a conspiracy? Did Brady conspire with the D- lineman who swatted his pass for an INT? Did Ridley conspire with Pollard to get knocked out?

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They seem to have no fight, no desire and that may
have had to do with Brady's body language.
Tell me this was the Brady you are use to seeing on the side lines walking
up an down firing player up?
So Brady was resigned that he was battling a vast conspracy and lost all hope and desire to rally his team mates? Is it within the realm of possibility that the Pats were simply outplayed and were unable to make adequate adjustments? Nah, that's a wacky premise...the conspiracy theory makes far more sense.
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You can build a story around any match-up IMO, Manning TB in the AFCCG would'v been a great story or Manning in the SB, a Rookie vs Rookie QB SB, etc...

SF and the Ravens are 2 really good teams and the Jerkbaugh's are 2 really good coaches, nothing surprising about this to me.
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It's easy to see conspiracies when you're still recovering from an emotional loss that came in a fairly unexpected manner. More likely than an NFL fix, the Ravens are a tough, talented team and they just played better than the Pats did Sunday.

There were three plays that effectively killed the Pats chances in the second half, and none of them were effected by the refs: Welker's drop on 3rd down, Ridley's fumble (while he was probably blacked out), and the first interception that came on a tipped ball. If the NFL was fixing this game, the Pats may have been in on it.
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Never attribute to complex conspiracy that which has mundane easily attributed ineptness.


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So the fact that the Pats actually lost a game indicates a conspiracy? Did Brady conspire with the D- lineman who swatted his pass for an INT? Did Ridley conspire with Pollard to get knocked out?



So Brady was resigned that he was battling a vast conspracy and lost all hope and desire to rally his team mates? Is it within the realm of possibility that the Pats were simply outplayed and were unable to make adequate adjustments? Nah, that's a wacky premise...the conspiracy theory makes far more sense.
Right .. one of the best offenses ever held to NO points in the second half.
I am sure you believe that makes sense.
When defenders can hang on receivers and no calls made, what adjustments are to be made? Refs were deciding the game at that point
and the players knew it.
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Right .. one of the best offenses ever held to NO points in the second half.
I am sure you believe that makes sense.
When defenders can hang on receivers and no calls made, what adjustments are to be made? Refs were deciding the game at that point
and the players knew it.
As a cop I learned a long time ago that there are two groups of people that you should never try to have a rational conversation with- drunks and those who fashion their hats out of tin foil.

Having said that I just cannot help myself...

Do you think that's why BB didn't want to do that post game interview...he was *gasp* afraid to blow the lid on the whole shadow operation?
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Consider it all ask yourself ...
does it make sense that this offense is held to 13 points with NO points in the second half?

It almost seems like the no 2nd half points was
a rebellion to the game being fixed .... the only way that they could
say it was fixed without saying it verbally.

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As a cop I learned a long time ago that there are two groups people of which you should never try to have a rational conversation- drunks and those who fashion their hats out of tin foil.

Having said that I just cannot help myself...

Do you think that's why BB didn't want to do that post game interview...he was *gasp* afraid to blow the lid on the whole operation?
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Right .. one of the best offenses ever held to NO points in the second half.
I am sure you believe that makes sense.
When defenders can hang on receivers and no calls made, what adjustments are to be made? Refs were deciding the game at that point
and the players knew it.
Peyton Manning had one of the best seasons in the history of the NFL in 2004, breaking (at the time) the single season touchdown record. The Pats then held him to 3 points FOR THE WHOLE GAME. And this was after the Pats had won two out of three Super Bowls, so I doubt the NFL was dying to see them get to their third. What happened in that game? The Patriots had a great gameplan, and they executed it perfectly. I choose to give them credit for that, and it would be hypocritical to turn around and refuse to give Baltimore full credit for taking care of business Sunday night.
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