PatsFanSince74

Sorry, I'm on vacation in Roswell to take a break from my day job of hunting for the "real killer" of OJ's wife, so I didn't see this earlier.

Seriously, though, I think you're having trouble processing the loss and need a little more time to get perspective.

There was quite a bit of chatter about the officials' tendencies before the game and they were all validated during it. If anything, the Pats got the benefit of a couple of close calls (especially on one review of a reception that the booth announcers, Pereira and little old me all thought hit the ground). Brady could have been flagged for his slide but wasn't. The only close call to go against them was the Pollard hit on Ridley, but, looking at it again, I think it could be seen as much as a case of Ridley putting his helmet down as it was Pollard bringing his up.

Brady's body language said to me exactly what he described after the game: they didn't make the plays they had to make and he knew it as it was happening.

Take a few days off from obsessing over the Pats. Why not go on down to Roswell? The weather's a lot warmer.

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Palm Beach Pats Fan

I suppose it is a good idea to keep all the nutjob tinfoil hat types all posting in one thread rather than cluttering up all threads.

Every now and then, though, I just have to take a look. I enjoy the good satirical post now and then, but a few of you seem serious... really?

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Claremonster

Funny you say that...because that is also true. Think about it, George W Dubya Bush?


Really?...



Really?...







Really?...

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Tim Brown’s allegations about Super Bowl XXXVII fade, but questions remain

Posted by Mike Florio on January 28, 2013, 9:12 AM EST

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We agree wholeheartedly with the opinions expressed by Peter King in his latest Monday Morning Quarterback and elsewhere regarding the merit (or more accurately lack thereof) of former Raiders receiver Tim Brown’s non-allegation allegation that former Raiders coach Bill Callahan “sabotaged” a 10-year-old Super Bowl. But some questions remain as the latest Super Bowl week commences.

First, will 49ers coach Jim Harbaugh be asked about the situation at one of his many media availabilities this week? Harbaugh, who was a first-year offensive assistant with the Raiders in 2002, wasn’t asked about it on Sunday night when the team arrived. And given the extent to which the story has faded in recent days, he may not be asked about it at all.

Second, did the Raiders’ game plan change two days before the game? Brown’s ludicrous opinion of sabotage comes from his belief, as a factual matter, that Callahan changed the game plan. So did he? There has been no definitive answer provided to that question.

Third, did the Raiders fail to change audibles and line calls? It has been presumed for nearly a decade that the Raiders didn’t account for the fact that former Oakland coach Jon Gruden knew the code words that would be used at the line of scrimmage on offense. But Peter King’s dismantling of the sabotage theory in the latest Monday Morning Quarterback extends to the notion that the Bucs knew what the Raiders were planning to do. The game broadcast, however, contained strong evidence to the contrary.

Tampa Bay safety John Lynch wore a microphone, and he plainly can be heard telling former Bucs defensive backs coach Mike Tomlin after the Raiders fell behind 20-3 late in the first half, “Mike, every play they’ve run, we ran in practice. It’s unreal.”

Said Tomlin, “I know.”

Whatever the reason, the Buccaneers’ dominance was enough, we’re told, to prompt Raiders receiver Jerry Rice to rip the microphone he was wearing during the game from his pads and flush it down a toilet at halftime.

Fourth, given that King believes Brown’s assertion is “utterly preposterous” and that King is one of the voters for induction into the Pro Football Hall of Fame, will this mess keep Brown out for another year? The voters will swear that they don’t consider anything other than what happens on the field, in accordance with the Hall of Fame’s bylaws. But as we explained in our one-time-and-one-time-only PFT season preview magazine (which apparently made a cameo appearance several months ago in an episode of Mike & Molly on CBS), the human beings who cast the votes are influenced by the things that tend to influence the decisions made by human beings.

If it’s a close call between Brown and someone else as a given voter makes the excruciating descent from 15 modern-era finalists to up to five modern-era enshrinees, Brown’s assertions could be viewed, consciously or otherwise, as reflecting the kind of disrespect for and misunderstanding of the game that could be the factor pushing that person one way or the other.

There would be no hard proof of it, and none of the voters will risk their vote by proclaiming publicly that they sabotaged Brown’s candidacy in part because of his claim of sabotage. But it definitely could, in a close case, be a factor — and we’d never know that it was.

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JR4

Finally a guy with a website that provides TONs of info on fixes
on not only the NFL but other sports as well.

There is so much but this is most interesting:

A guy tried to trademark the term "Harbowl" but the NFL lawyers
scared the crap out of him and thus succeeded in preventing
the trademark! the kicker is:

. . .This happened in August of 2012 !

The man who trademarked


if you really want to know more see the link to article below and
also check out the many menu links about fixes.

Professional Fantasy Football? - The Fix Is In

chasa

I was unaware that the refs have the ability to make welker drop passes that hit him in the numbers, while at the same time causing our defensive players to hurt themselves when they fall down.

DarrylStingley

I don't buy the conspiracy angle. Any real fix by the NFL would perforce involve so many people that it would leak out.

But that said, I could see the NFL mandating that the zebras call the rough stuff loose, with a specific intent to help the more physical team.

That said, as Mangini noted, the Pats could have seen how the game was being called and adjusted.

Patsrock

Pro and College sports read the trademark listings all the time to try to stop anyone from profiting off of their league. This is not the only time and will not be the last. It shows nothing about a fix being in.

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Steve:Section 102

I just figured out JR4's true identity:


You're reaching, man. I dunno if you really believe it or if your just trying to keep the thread going.

Hey, it just sounds to me like you need to unplug, man. You know, get some R and R....

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Synovia

They clearly were letting them get away with a lot. This was a lot better for the Ravens personnel than the Patriots (big WRs vs little WRs). That being said, there's almost always less PI called in the playoffs than the regular season (which is something I really dislike. Be consistent).

The Patriots just didn't seem to adjust to this at all. Part of it is that they lost their only big CB pretty early, but they played an awful lot of soft zone in the 2nd half.