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Re: Peter King :It's time to make room for Flacco in upper echelon of QBs
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Originally Posted by Dscola
Did he really say he was "Elite" or did he say he belongs in the upper echelon. To me there are only 3 elite QBs.
Brady, Rodgers, and Manning.
King said upper echelon. Posters have been talking about that and/or elite.
I think he's solid. You could do a heck of a lot worse than Flacco, but you could also do much better. I'd put him in the top 10-12, somewhere in there. Very capable of having a big game on Sunday, but doesn't show that ability on a consistent basis.
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Re: Peter King :It's time to make room for Flacco in upper echelon of QBs
I don't understand why you or any other Ravens fans are trying to play the "Disrespect" card. We aren't the ones flapping our gums "Guaranteeing a victory". We aren't the ones saying our no huddle offense is a gimmic or is "suspect".
The only disrespect happening at all actually is coming the the Ravens players and they are taking shots at our entire team.
Re: Peter King :It's time to make room for Flacco in upper echelon of QBs
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Originally Posted by ivanvamp
Wait...you put Eli Manning, a QB that has won two rings and has had several excellent regular seasons, stats-wise, in the same tier as Cassell, Freeman, and Fitzpatrick?
Yikes.......
E. Manning, Freeman and Fitzpatrick actually had somewhat comparable seasons (yards aside in Fitz's case). You're right about Cassell though. I should knock him down a tier.
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Re: Peter King :It's time to make room for Flacco in upper echelon of QBs
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Originally Posted by Nikolai
E. Manning, Freeman and Fitzpatrick actually had somewhat comparable seasons (yards aside in Fitz's case). You're right about Cassell though. I should knock him down a tier.
Re: Peter King :It's time to make room for Flacco in upper echelon of QBs
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Originally Posted by jb1095
I don't understand why you or any other Ravens fans are trying to play the "Disrespect" card. We aren't the ones flapping our gums "Guaranteeing a victory". We aren't the ones saying our no huddle offense is a gimmic or is "suspect".
The only disrespect happening at all actually is coming the the Ravens players and they are taking shots at our entire team.
I'm just repeating what is being said by your board's fans.
I can go back and find threads where your team's fans are upset that Manning gets all kind of praise as well.
To me Flacco is like Terry Bradshaw, Phil Simms, and Troy AIkman. These QB's were overshadowed by other players on their team their whole career but at the end of the day, they won.
Other team's fans don't see the clutch 3rd and 9 throw to get a first down so that Rice can run the clock out.
They don't see that fact that Rice has lanes to run through because they saftey is playing deep.
When you have a Ray Lewis, Terrell Suggs, Haloti Ngata, Ed Reed, and Ray Rice all of whom have very large presence in interviews and are media darlings,then you get Flacco who is monotone and doesn't say much, he gets overlooked.
You can have Cutler with his top 10 defense who can't play a full season or make the playoffs. You can have Matt Stafford with the best reciever in the NFL with his picks at the end of games to get his team a top 10 pick every year. You can have Rivers and Romo and Newton. I'll take Joe Flacco and his steadiness.
And by the way, what was Flacco supposed to say when asked if he thought he was elite? "No I'm maybe in the top 15 of the league." Get out of here with that crap.
Last edited by Dscola; 01-18-2013 at 08:52 AM..
Reason: They hell is wrong with my keyboard.
Re: Peter King :It's time to make room for Flacco in upper echelon of QBs
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Originally Posted by Dscola
You can have Cutler with his top 10 defense who can't play a full season or make the playoffs. You can have Matt Stafford with the best reciever in the NFL with his picks at the end of games to get his team a top 10 pick every year. You can have Rivers and Romo and Newton. I'll take Joe Flacco and his steadiness.
And by the way, what was Flacco supposed to say when asked if he thought he was elite? "No I'm maybe in the top 15 of the league." Get out of here with that crap.
Are there people out there that consider Stafford, Cutler, Rivers, Romo or Newton in the upper echelon? The question is would you take him over a Brady, Rodgers, Brees, Manning, etc...?
Re: Peter King :It's time to make room for Flacco in upper echelon of QBs
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Originally Posted by Dscola
I'm just repeating what is being said by your board's fans.
I can go back and find threads where your team's fans are upset that Manning gets all kind of praise as well.
To me Flacco is like Terry Bradshaw, Phil Simms, and Troy AIkman. These QB's were overshadowed by other players on their team their whole career but at the end of the day, they won.
Other team's fans don't see the clutch 3rd and 9 throw to get a first down so that Rice can run the clock out.
They don't see that fact that Rice has lanes to run through because they saftey is playing deep.
When you have a Ray Lewis, Terrell Suggs, Haloti Ngata, Ed Reed, and Ray Rice all of whom have very large presence in interviews and are media darlings,then you get Flacco who is monotone and doesn't say much, he gets overlooked.
You can have Cutler with his top 10 defense who can't play a full season or make the playoffs. You can have Matt Stafford with the best reciever in the NFL with his picks at the end of games to get his team a top 10 pick every year. You can have Rivers and Romo and Newton. I'll take Joe Flacco and his steadiness.
And by the way, what was Flacco supposed to say when asked if he thought he was elite? "No I'm maybe in the top 15 of the league." Get out of here with that crap.
To me Flacco is like Terry Bradshaw, Phil Simms, and Troy AIkman ~ They all won SBs...multiple SBs. Joe needs to win at least one first right? I don't like these discussions because football is a team game. Joe is playing well now so ride that horse but he is too inconsistent to call "great" IMO. But all he needs to do now is be great for two more games and yes he can definitely do that. Feel better?
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Re: Peter King :It's time to make room for Flacco in upper echelon of QBs
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