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    Kicking the 56 yard FG vs going for it on 4th and 3

    I said inarguably Tampa would have had better than a 50% chance, so not close to a guarantee of their victory I said better than 50%. Yes Folk was 3 of 4 (talk about a small sample size) from 50 or more with the Patriots with a long of 51. As a matter of fact Folk's long since the beginning of...
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    Kicking the 56 yard FG vs going for it on 4th and 3

    That is all true, but Folk from 56 in his health and that weather gives you at best a 25% at the lead. Even if you get that lead it is almost inarguable that TB still has a better than 50% chance of taking it back. I have shown how in that game no matter the down we got a first down on 75% of...
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    Kicking the 56 yard FG vs going for it on 4th and 3

    You are completely inaccurate, as I stated above, even given a way, way worse situation, we gained 40 yards on that desperation drive. More accurately, in 50 seconds with no timeouts Brady got us 40 yards downfield before 2 desperation tosses from our own 49. Also news flash, Evans, Brown, and...
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    Kicking the 56 yard FG vs going for it on 4th and 3

    There are some people like that, but such a post that generalizes is of no value here. If you instead point out that there are some like that, then I am not sure it adds a lot of value, but it at least isn't completely wrong. I assure you that I was about as mad as I have ever been during a...
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    Kicking the 56 yard FG vs going for it on 4th and 3

    Not a fair comparison, 10 more seconds, but 2 less timeouts, starting from the 9, still ended up gaining 40 yards anyway. Oh, and an absolutely huge difference, we needed a TD and a 2 PT conversion to force overtime, vs just a FG to win, so that comparison is absurd, absolutely a night and day...
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    Kicking the 56 yard FG vs going for it on 4th and 3

    Why do people keep typing that 4th & 3 was low percentage? We were 3 for 4 on 3rd and 5 or less on the game. Additionally we got a 1st down on 6 of 8 2nd and 7 or less, not got a 1st down eventually, I mean got a first down on that play! Look at my long post above that goes into far more detail...
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    Kicking the 56 yard FG vs going for it on 4th and 3

    On 1st drive: 3rd and 9, incomplete pass On 2nd drive 3rd and 14, gained 7 yards On 3rd drive: 3rd and 10, pass intercepted, but was catchable for a 20ish yard gain and conversion On 4th drive: 3rd and 3, 15 yard completion 3rd and 5, 10 yard penalty...
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    Kicking the 56 yard FG vs going for it on 4th and 3

    Why do people keep repeating this? It simply is not accurate. If he makes the kick I say that statistically it is at least 50% Brady leads Tampa to a game winning FG. My gut in the flow of the game says it was 80% Brady would have won it, and only that low because the FG could have been missed...
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    Kicking the 56 yard FG vs going for it on 4th and 3

    Let me be fair though, while I totally disagreed with Bill on the final decision, I thought he owned the first 59 minutes. It seemed that every big break went against us, the Mac interception on a throw that could have just as easily been a huge completion. The fumble on a helmet with a ton of...
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    Kicking the 56 yard FG vs going for it on 4th and 3

    I will admit to being emotional about the decision, but must point out it was the moment I saw Folk on the field. I immediately yelled that a FG attempt guaranteed a loss. If you would have guaranteed me that Folk would have made the kick I still would have said go for the first down without any...
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    Butler & Saints working towards finalizing a deal (Thread now UFC Pats Fans Event)

    This narrative that the Pats won't "give up" the #11 pick and settle for the 32 is ridiculous. The fact that the Saints would have to give up #11 to sign Butler as an RFA is completely unrelated to his trade value from the Saints or any other team. It only matters if the Patriots believe that...
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    Butler visiting Saints

    Please can we all get it straight, it is Cooks, not Brooks, not sure if it is one poster, or multiple posters, but after reading it for the 5th time I had to mention it. As for this subject I think I would be happy with 32 and 42 with us sending the Panthers' 3rd, 72 or whatever. I love...
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    Pats to look at K Huston=Sox fan & Vrabels former caddy

    Just a couple of points about Huston. College kickoffs are from the 35 yard line not the 40. I'd say 95% of the time they kicked deep it was a touchback ( the Buckeyes like to do a lot of pooch kicks). Also most of his kickoffs were 8-15 yards beyond the goaline. Not only do his...
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    Name Your "project" Pick

    I have a couple from here in columbus Ohio. Both are projected in rounds 5-7 Mike Kudla DE/OLB- He is the strongest player in the draft by a large margin, and also has very good speed. The thing I like most about him is he never quits on a play, a "high motor" type. Nate Salley S- he is...
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    Price, Morton, and David Boston

    I just looked it up, Boston doesn't turn 28 until August. Maybe he is old enough to have matured and healthy enough to contribute.
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    Price, Morton, and David Boston

    I think that David Boston would be worth a shot. With him you are talking about true superstar potential for very little investment. I also agree that Peerless would be another I would like to see if they don't want to touch Boston.
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    here is more ..

    One thing that I think is lost in all of this is that if the opponents have on average a 10 yard field position deficit after our kickoffs this season than if we had AV, we may not need any clutch field goals to win a game. Also if we ever need one there is a chance it may end up 10 yards...
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    A low cost option to replace AV

    I posted this on the draft forum in response to kickers available in the draft, wanted to see what everyone thought of fulfilling this need with this guy late in the draft and a couple of cheap free agents to compete for the job. How about Josh Huston from OSU ( I am admittedly biased ). He...
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    Kickers in the draft

    How about Josh Huston from OSU ( I am admittedly biased ). He was stuck behind Mike Nugent for a few years after a rough redshirt freshman season. He was very impressive as a 6th year senior last year. He would have won all of the National postseason awards for kickers if those didn't end up...
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    Crazy draft idea.

    One of the negatives that is reported about him is his blocking, but in the bowl game UCLA saw a weakness against Northwestern and rushed for over 300 yards with Lewis doing very well blocking. Of course he was blocking against the worst D in the country, so it could still be a weakness. He does...

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