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Re: Finally: An update from Passing Camp

Well it's WAY too early to say I was right - but at least my suggestion appears not to have been stupid :) :

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/showpost.php?p=407809&postcount=1

I felt the same way last season when they had Wilson at corner for the first few weeks of camp. Because earlier in the offseason I thought they would move him there, opposite of Hobbs. Then he ended up back at safety.

But I like your thought process on AD inside. Beside the fact that AD is built better for the inside, I think Vrabel it is at his best, prefers it and brings more to the table outside. With that said it is going to be a hell of a lot of fun watching Vrabel, Thomas, Colvin, Bruschi and Seau give opposing coordinators fits with their allignments. Considering two of them can line up anywhere at anytime and be very effective.
 
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I felt the same way last season when they had Wilson at corner for the first few weeks of camp. Because earlier in the offseason I thought they would move him there, opposite of Hobbs. Then he ended up back at safety.
The difference is that Wilson already knew his Safety position and was doing a little cross training - Thomas, you would think, would learn his primary position first being new to the team; but we'll see.
 
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http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/reiss_pieces/2007/05/5_from_camp.html

May 31, 2007
5 from camp

Five final observations from today's passing camp at Gillette Stadium:

1) Adalius Thomas on the move. The Patriots' big free-agent signing has been advertised as a versatile player who can line up at various positions. This was evident in one of the team's final sets of drills in 11 on 11 work, as Thomas moved from inside linebacker, to playing with his hand on the ground as a down lineman/rusher, to backpedaling in pass coverage. Thomas spent much of the practice lining up at inside linebacker.

2) Tom Brady in command. As one would expect, when Brady is running a drill, there is no question as to who is in charge. While it's the offseason, players weren't in pads, and it was only a small snapshot of a much larger picture, Brady looks as sharp as ever.

3) Randy Moss in focus. It was interesting to watch Moss developing a rapport with Tom Brady and Co. in the passing game. Moss worked as an outside receiver, and showed a part of his competitive side when slipping on the wet field during drills in which there was no defense. He pounded the ground in frustration and shouted. In 11 on 11 drills, Moss caught one touchdown pass down the left sideline from Tom Brady (Tory James in one-on-one coverage) but shortly before that play, he couldn't corral a long pass down the right sideline from Matt Cassel (cornerback Mike Richardson in coverage, with help from safety Rashad Baker). On the latter play, Moss was knocked to the ground by accident as Baker closed in and couldn't pull up in time.

4) Interceptions. Second-year defensive back Willie Andrews and 11-year veteran defensive back Chad Scott both intercepted Matt Cassel in 11 on 11 drills near the end of practice. Andrews, playing safety, showed solid instincts to gather in the interception after the ball was tipped on a throw behind Kelley Washington.

5) Media interest. For perspective on the interest the Patriots are generating among the media, consider that 50 members of the media were granted credentials for this passing camp. A crew from ESPN and the NFL Network were among the crowd.

Posted By: mreiss | Time: 02:50:55 PM
 
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The difference is that Wilson already knew his Safety position and was doing a little cross training - Thomas, you would think, would learn his primary position first being new to the team; but we'll see.

Good point. I guess like many I assumed he would play outside with Vrabel inside given the fact that Vrabel had a good grasp of the inside and Thomas played mostly outside. But then again I maybe the only one who thinks that Woods may get groomed for the inside, especially if Alexander doesn't pan out.

Bottom Line I think you will most likely end up being right.
 
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Well if Thomas is going to play inside then that might explain why they are interested in Chad Brown.
 
Globe/AP Photos:

http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/gallery/05_31_07_passing_camp

This has to be one of the coolest pictures I've seen to date:

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New England Patriots newly acquired linebacker Adalius Thomas (96) is pulled into position by New England Patriots head coach Bill Belichick as Thomas works against defensive lineman Le Kevin Smith (90) during the football team's passing and receiving camp in Foxborough, Mass., Thursday morning, May 31, 2007. Thomas was aquired from the Baltimore Ravens during the off season. (AP Photo/Stephan Savoia)

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Here's an interesting picture:

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Sammy Morris is wearing a red no-contact jersey.

That's somewhat ironic, as NFL rules stipulate these practices are not to involve player-to-player contact...
 
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The only thing here is that Breer refers to Bruschi playing the Mike ILB. In the Pats' system, that's the strongside ILB, not the weakside. The Will is the weakside ILB.
Right, I had Bruschi at SILB and Thomas at WILB.
 
Here's an interesting picture:

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Sammy Morris is wearing a red no-contact jersey.

That's somewhat ironic, as NFL rules stipulate these practices are not to involve player-to-player contact...

Wink wink, nudge nudge.
 
Is it me or does ADT look huge? I know he's an NFL LB, but damn.
 
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Right, I had Bruschi at SILB and Thomas at WILB.

Exactly. But Breer should have said Thomas was at the 'Will' position, not the 'Mike.'
 
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All you have to do is see a piece of the hoodie and you know who it is:rocker:
 
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Which arm did Seau break? I think it was the right arm and he seems to be wearing something on his right arm, i wonder if it hasn't healed all the way yet or if it's just for protection? (it should have healed by now, so hopefully just for protection)


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Which arm did Seau break? I think it was the right arm and he seems to be wearing something on his right arm, i wonder if it hasn't healed all the way yet or if it's just for protection? (it should have healed by now, so hopefully just for protection)


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Reiss said he was wearing a soft cast.
 
Great stuff! I wondered about Morris' red shirt,not only because of the practices being non-contact but also why did he get the red shirt to begin with?

The pic of Moss and Brady was cool too.

When does the season start:bricks:
 
I would have thought that Breer and Reiss both would have made mention that Green and Gay weren't here because they were still in LA helping with arrangements for Marquise's funeral. Though, they might not have because maybe they thought it was obvious.
 
That was good news on Garret Mills showing his speed.
 
http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/patriots/?p=1235

May 31st, 2007
Final thoughts
Posted by Albert Breer at 6:17 pm

The Patriots will travel tomorrow to Louisiana as a team, calling off their final days of OTAs to be with the family of Marquise Hill this weekend. Most will return next week for Monday’s golf tournament and the mandatory minicamp in the three days to follow, though players have been given permission to stay in Louisiana past the team’s scheduled return on Saturday.

So going into minicamp, here are a few things to chew on:

– I’ve gotten a couple emails on calling the weak-side linebacker the “Mike.” So let me explain. First of all, the origins of these names come in the first letter of the position each is playing. In a 4-3 defense, it’s relatively easy. The middle linebacker is the “Mike”, the strongside linebacker is the “Sam” and the weakside backer is the “Will.” In a 3-4, the terminology is a bit more convoluted. In some systems, the “Mike” is the weakside inside linebacker with the “Ted” (standing for tight-end side) being the strongside. In others, the weakside inside is the “Jack” while the “Mike” is on the strongside. So in one terminology set, the weakside inside ‘backer would be the “Mike”, and in another the “Jack.” Basically, that’s where Adalius Thomas was seeing a lot of reps, with Tedy Bruschi playing the “Mike” or the “Ted”, depending on what terminology you use. These two positions can switch presnap, so there is a distinction, whereas the “Will” and “Sam”, being on-the-line positions, can’t switch before the snap, so those players generally need the ability to play both the open and closed sides to deal with flipped formations and motion.

– One of the more interesting things to see was Tom Brady’s command of the offense. More and more, he seems like a coach on the field, getting players in position and helping receivers learn routes and adjustments. Last year, Brady was pretty fiery early on in prodding his targets. This time, he seemed more measured and patient in helping his teammates out. Either way, it’s clear that when one of the guys on the offense has a question, Brady’s the first non-coach he’ll go to.

– This is very important in reading all observations of this camp: It is, indeed, normal for a defense to be ahead of an offense early on. If this was, say, a college spring game, the defense would’ve beaten the offense out there soundly. There are a lot of new pieces on offense, and it’ll take a while for them to come together, as was the case last year. And so problems offensively, and there were plenty this morning, should provoke no sounding of the alarm quite yet.

– That said, what should be an ultracompetitive race for roster spots at receiver got off to a rocky start. Randy Moss‘ two drops will be magnified, but the truth is that Kelley Washington and Garrett Mills had some similar problems. The timing just isn’t there yet, and at times, the group looked lost. Which, like we said, is to be expected.

– There is a big difference, at least at this point, between Deion Branch holding out last year and what looms with Asante Samuel this year. In 2006, Branch was under contract and could incur fines for every day he missed. By the time he was traded to Seattle, he’d incurred over a half-million dollars in fines. Samuel, on the other hand, can’t be fined, since he’s not under contract.

– Finally, a word on the players who spoke today on Hill. My feeling was that — and this isn’t any surprise — one quote from Richard Seymour carried the most weight. Here it is: “I talked to a few of my teammates and I think from that point you go back and you look at in life; we always go through a lot of things, how insignificant they are, maybe have a word or two with my wife or the kids. Ultimately, it’s opportunities and times like this when you look back and reflect and say, hey I’ll take that all day. Spending that time with my family, now for me having four kids, I’m just really trying to spend all the time that I can with them. Like I said, we never know when our last moment is.”

I think that, pretty much, says what we can all take from a tragedy like this.

Breer certainly does know his stuff. I did e-mail him about it, and he responded with what he said above.

As far as the Pats' system goes, I recall from that 2003 playbook that circulated around the net (not sure if it's still available at that Bears' site) that the Pats did use the Jack/weak and Mike/strong system Breer also described above.
 
http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/patriots/?p=1235



Breer certainly does know his stuff. I did e-mail him about it, and he responded with what he said above.

As far as the Pats' system goes, I recall from that 2003 playbook that circulated around the net (not sure if it's still available at that Bears' site) that the Pats did use the Jack/weak and Mike/strong system Breer also described above.

Good stuff pats1.
I've been liking Breer's analyses more and more-he's factual, he's knowledgable, and he seems to work out well alongside of Tomase.
 
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