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Old 10-03-2010, 10:55 PM   #21
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Okay, I was exaggerating on the second point but no, I totally agree with the OP that the Pats need a major disruptor on defense--the kind of player that's been missing since perhaps Willie McGinest. The bend don't break 2 gap defense is getting us nowhere. We needed players on D this year, but chose yet again to bring in a bunch of bodies instead. I am just so tired of not seeing a guy that scares opposing teams have to always account for.

Impossible to be halfway facetious? I don't think so ace.
You are assuming that Peppers would agree to come here. We have no idea what the non-cash incentives were for him, so this sort of wishing is pretty much nonsense. He isn't here, we have no idea if he WOULD have agreed to play here, so it's a pretty worthless discussion.

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I'm very happy Peppers is not here. He wouldn't have fit in.

On top of that, he may grind your gears this year, but next year he'll grind it a little less and in 3 years he will be washed up.

In three years, who we have on defense will be just entering the prime of their careers.
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I'm very happy Peppers is not here. He wouldn't have fit in.

On top of that, he may grind your gears this year, but next year he'll grind it a little less and in 3 years he will be washed up.

In three years, who we have on defense will be just entering the prime of their careers.
This....... We should be discussing the players and schemes we HAVE, and not some fantasy football situation. There's a reason that coach only discusses players who are with the team, because no one else matters.
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The Pats just signed Brady to the richest extension on a per year basis ever. They also made Wilfork the highest paid NT ever. The Pats are not cheap. They manage their money smartly and pay for guys they feel they really need. I heard that the Pats front office was making offers for Peppers. It's just that the Bears paid out the most. You just can't win the big free agent every time although that would be nice. You can't spend like the Yankees do because football actually has a salary cap.
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The Pats just signed Brady to the richest extension on a per year basis ever. They also made Wilfork the highest paid NT ever. The Pats are not cheap. They manage their money smartly and pay for guys they feel they really need. I heard that the Pats front office was making offers for Peppers. It's just that the Bears paid out the most. You just can't win the big free agent every time although that would be nice. You can't spend like the Yankees do because football actually has a salary cap.
Adalius Thomas is a big example of why a big free agent signing does not always lead to a great deal,even though it looks great on paper.

I always wondered if SF who was closest to NE in obtaining Thomas would have been a better fit for him.
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Another fanboy thread ignoring the realities of the huge contracts given out to Wilfork and Brady. Here's a clue, you can't pay league leading #s to everyone you'd like to have. And not everyone is a fit, year after year, not just one season of a multi-year contract.

Fans who have trouble grasping this concept should stick to baseball where teams like the Sox and Yanks buy their championships, and sometimes even that is no guarantee.
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Really? I forget the exact number, but the Patriots are right up there in total payroll over the last few years. If you want cheap, go support the Bucs.

The Patriots don't pay over market value for certain players. They make up for it by having higher paid guys at the end of the roster.
well......they're not spending it on defense.

I'd be willing to bet that the pats have the lowest paid group of LB's in the NFL, and have got to be almost as close with the DB's

what do they say? you get what you pay for? or how about 'the right mix of youth and veteran leadership'?
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I'm very happy Peppers is not here. He wouldn't have fit in.

On top of that, he may grind your gears this year, but next year he'll grind it a little less and in 3 years he will be washed up.

In three years, who we have on defense will be just entering the prime of their careers.
because the defenders they currently have fit so well together?
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Adalius Thomas is a big example of why a big free agent signing does not always lead to a great deal,even though it looks great on paper.

I always wondered if SF who was closest to NE in obtaining Thomas would have been a better fit for him.
you're right. paying guys doesn't work. using high draft picks on an OLB's doesn't work.

the highest paid OLB on the pats roster is TBC with a total cap hit of 3M. The next listed could not even make the team (pierre woods) the rest of them are at or near the minimum.

'you get what you pay for' is just as likely if not more likely than the hit or miss of signing FA's
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