cstjohn17

Cleaned it up for the weak at heart. The guy is so talented but plays like a total prima donna, barely blocks, gives up if the play is not on his side of the field, etc.

Against the Saints, it was over after Sharper hit him in the first quarter. He was a non factor after that.

As a veteran leader and someone who 'just wants to win' he needs to show up more.

The Dynasty

He has shown up. He leads the league in recieving yards, tied for 3rd in TDs, 10th in receptions, tied for 1st in 20+ yard catches and tied for 5th in first downs. It is pretty hard to question a guy who is putting up numbers like that.

I do see where your frustrations are coming from. He hasnt produced in the games that we have lost, with the exception of the Colts game. As I have stated in other threads in games that we have lost with the exception of the Colts, he had 1,2, 4 and 5 catches. Games like yesterday where he makes a big play in the 1st and then disappears for the rest of the game can be extremely frustrating for fans. I do not think this is all on Moss I think Brady has something to do with it. Brady needs to do more to get Randy the ball and Randy needs to find ways to get open

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Mogamedogz

No one has ever confused Randy with Hines Ward... why would you expect that to change 10-11 years deep into his carreer? He just isnt that kind of a player. But it's not anything new.

MassPats38

Moss was running short routes to keep the offense moving earlier in the season, and he has been productive. I wonder if this post would have appeared after a win. I wonder if it would have appeared immediately after his 56-yard TD.

The fact is Moss still has an entourage chasing him on every play, and likely goes away from the play to draw defenders away from the ball. Can he do more? Probably. Is he a dog/faker? That's a pretty big hyperbole given his production on the season. Part of his job is to draw defenders, so do not believe for a second Welker would have so many amazing games without him doing his part.

There are plenty of issues with the offense, from Brady to the last lineman on the field. Is Brady a dog for the bad throws? Are the linemen dogs for letting Brady take those shots? I'd say Moss is fairly low on the hit list at this point in correcting the issues on the team.

strongside

A bit strong don't you think? What did everyone on this board say when moss came in to Gillette as a member of the Raiders? Get physical with him, puch him in the mouth, and he'll dissappear, etc.. Now because he's in a pats uniform that doesn't apply? Guess what, he played the same way in 2007 and no one seemed to care. He's doing what he as always done. catch the deep ball.

I wish he would go over the middle more often and catch the tough ball but its just not what he does or ever did on a consistent basis in his career.

I get it, we are frustrated because it seems that any team if they want can take him out of the game. Maybe the OC needs to be more creative with him in motion, maybe Moss has to commit to catching balls over the middle?

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Early on in the season, by many accounts, Moss was having a VERY hard time just getting around in the locker room midweek. I remember reading stories that it looked like the guy was really in pain. What did he go out and do? When Wes Welker was hurt, and Edelman was unable to step in, Moss went over the middle countless times per game, taking big hit after big hit, and helped that offense survive without a real running game. He didn't miss a game.

I think calling Moss a faker and a dog is a bit disingenuous.

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cincipatsfan

WTF is a dog-faker

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The Dynasty

Moss has never been a guy that has wanted to go across the middle, even in 2007 whenever he would catch a pass even close to the middle of the field he would immediate get down and avoid the big hit.

Going across the middle has never been Moss' game and its not like it has effected his play. Welker is our guy for going across the middle, not Randy Moss.

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Nikolai

I've got no problem with Randy's effort. it's the way the offense is working with him that I don't like.

I'm glad to have him on the team.

Flame on.

Remix 6

according to Belichick and others, Randy does a good job of blocking. idk why you assume he doesnt