TriplecHamp

Where was this demeanor in the Denver game last year or the Houston game this year? It's pointless to respond because I know you don't have the football knowledge to break down why we lost or even attempt to do so. Rather you use some subjective interpretation of Brady's body language and attribute this as choking.

AndyJohnson

Does Kraft is cheap count?

patsfan13

Well in last year's SB Brady set a record for consecutive passes completed, then he re injured his shoulder and his accuracy fell off, in spite of that he had the team in position to put the game away, then either the pass was off or Welker dropped it your choice.

And this is somehow a choke?

REALLY??????????

He played the 2007 SB with a High ankle sprain.

He spotted the D with a big lead in 2006, remember Mr Caldwell?


If one wants to comment on games it help to at least watch the games.

BTW he played poorly against the Ravens the last 2 years, Perhaps the Ravens have something to do with that.

__________________
"Some guys play in all-star games, some guys don't. I don't know who picks all those all-star teams. In all honesty, I don't know who picks the combine, for that matter," Belichick said. "How does (Miami-Ohio offensive lineman Brandon) Brooks not get invited to the combine? How did Vollmer not get invited to the combine? I don't know. We can't really worry about that. We just have to try to evaluate them the best we can."

supafly

First of all, let's look at the scoring offense in the divisional round of the last 2 years. While we're at it, we will also look at Brady's stats in those games:

2011--W vs Denver 45-10 (Brady throws for 6 TD's...and 363 yards)

2012--W vs Houston 41-28 (Brady throws for 3 TD's...and 344 yards)

So in the past 2 years in the divisional round, the offense has put up 45 and 41. In those games Brady has thrown for 9 TD's/1 INT, and has about a 350+ yd average.

That brings us to his "different looks, demeanors, attitude" etc:

2011 and 2012 split 1-1 with BAL, who is one of the tougher defensive outs in the AFC Playoffs every year, and a game vs the NYG where he sets an NFL record for 17 consecutive completions in a Super Bowl where they'd have won except for a combination of a Welker drop and another defensive collapse (mixed in with lucky Eli-throw part 2) ?

THAT'S your evidence that he has a different look in his eye + a different demeanor?

Edit: sorry, I see that patsfan13 has already addressed this issue. We must've posted at the same time.

__________________
Patiently waiting to defend the next "bubble" player in this summer's training camp.....

pherein

True, but do you have stats to support that Brady is very different now, and a loser?
Its what your calming. I mean you just cant say that without proof , right
? I see your point of view, lol, not like I have a choice.

__________________
Time to make the DOMENuts!!!!

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

pherein

I have a point….

Why is it that everyone that is posting that Brady is losing it has below 1000 post ?

hmm bandwagon fans ?

__________________
Time to make the DOMENuts!!!!

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

AndyJohnson

The famous 'look in his eye' analysis.
Tell me what does the look in my eye after reading your ridiculous opinion mean?

GrassyKneel

It's both sad and comical how blatant a double standard there is on this board when it comes to the play of Tom Brady.

When Peyton Manning loses in the playoffs, he choked. When Peyton Manning throws interceptions in the playoffs, it's because he's not clutch enough for the big games. When Peyton Manning puts up bad stats or QB ratings in the playoffs (even when the result is a W), it's all evidence of how he's incapable of post season play. When Colts fans used to chalk it up to drops, receivers running the wrong route, etc., it was always dismissed as excuses and whining.

When Tom Brady loses in the playoffs, it's everyone's fault but his. When Tom Brady throws interceptions in the playoffs, people say things like 'well the interceptions don't really count because xyz'. When Tom Brady puts up bad stats or QB ratings in the playoffs, stats don't tell the story. When anyone points to any of these things, people blame it on drops, receivers running the wrong route, etc. and it's everyone's fault but Brady's.

For instance:

Peyton Manning v. Ravens: 28-43, 290 yards, 3 TD, 2 INT, 88.3 rating. Put his team in a position where they had something like a 98% chance of winning with 30 seconds left, only to be shocked by the 'Flacco Fling' and a safety who appeared to have had a stroke on the interception attempt.

Yet there was a 'hatorade' thread in which everyone relished in another one and done choke for Manning.

Tom Brady v. Ravens: 29-54, 320 yards, 1 TD, 2 INT, 62.3 rating. Brady's picks included an endzone interception on a drive that would otherwise have resulted in at least 3 points. He was unable to lead a drive resulting in the score a single point in the second half of the game.

Yet this is not seen as a "choke", in fact many fans here, if not most, defend Brady's play as just fine, or even good, shifting blame away from him, saying he can't do it all himself, and blaming anyone else they can.

Don't get me wrong, this is a Pats forum, and so it's natural for there to be a certain distaste for Peyton Manning, but it's comical to see how blindly hypocritical so many fans here are. So eager and willing to label Manning a choker and dump the blame for essentially all of his playoff losses squarely on his shoulders, yet completely incapable of looking at the play of their own quarterback objectively enough to realize that since 2005, Brady hasn't been any better.

PATRIOTSFANINPA

This latest playoff loss had more to do with not being able to replace Talib in the lineup than it was with Brady.

The team was simply not prepared to play once Talib left the game,they had no answers and just hoped it would work out,it didn't .......3 Ravens TDs later in the 3rd quarter told the story.

Belichick who was once a gambler in the past didn't go on 4th down in Ravens territory on several drives instead they punted,and that concervatism might have also played a part in the loss.

The secondary continues to be the reason why this team has not been able to end the season with a win....It's not on Brady specifically.

The team needs a stud safety and keep Talib and add more veteran depth or the team may never win another SB in the Brady era.

Tunescribe

Not being a blind homer is no sin, son. I certainly don't own the message board here and no one casts a more critical eye on this team than yours truly. But it will help your cause immensely if you really think things through before posting. Your wild conjecture about Tom Brady and his playoff performance has no basis in reality and suggests a naively painful lack of knowledge.

__________________

Beware ... The Patriot Attack Parrot!

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.