Elephant in the Room -- Tom Brady's Mental block in big games - Page 4 - New England Patriots Forums

***ctpatsfan77*** · 01-28-2013, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by manxman2601

This seems to be a good place to post this:

Bye, bye Brady? » Merrimack Valley » EagleTribune.com, North Andover, MA

Approval of the message should not be implied by the mere posting of it. Just setting off the firework.

Some people claim that everyone on the Internet is entitled to their own opinion. Hector Longo is evidence that perhaps that should not be true.

iapatsfan · 01-28-2013, 09:41 PM

In my opinion, Brady is slowly losing the number one ability that made him the player he was or is. To me, the thing that always made Brady special was his unique ability to stay calm under pressure. I don't know if it's getting older or what, but Brady now seems to regularly make horrible plays when he perceives pressure, even when it's not actually there. How many times does he just throw the ball in the dirt because he wrongly thinks someone is closing in on him? How often did this use to happen? This is what use to differentiate Brady from other players. Drew developed the same problem at a much younger age. This is why they stick to the quick release passing game. I don't blame Brady, and I think he will still be effective in the instances where he can get rid of the ball quick or they give him a perfect pocket, but I do think it's time to groom some new blood that still has the fearlessness when pressure is all around.

I know Brady has had great seasons the last three years, but if you haven't seen his increase in folding under both real and perceived pressure, you are blind.

Patriot Missile · 01-28-2013, 09:43 PM

Regularly makes horrible plays under pressure? If that's the case he's a bottom feeder then.

pherein · 01-28-2013, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by kennyb

You don't give orders you old blind homer. Heard horror stories about the crazy homers on the main board. Thought they were kidding. Probably have a Brady pic under your pillow.

No disrespect, but disrespect intended, but who are you to disrespect a huge fan, and consistant poster like tuna?
Hes been here year after year. You have 188 post. He was here all the time.
your a nothing fan, and starting to piss me off.

kennyb · 01-28-2013, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Ivan

Lmao-Now both Brady and Welker suck. Belichick is next no doubt.

Actually the Draft is coming up so Belichick is definitely next in line for the sucks thread.

I don't understand how this team wins 5 games a year.

I never said either sucked. Reading comprehension.

***Tunescribe*** · 01-28-2013, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MrNathanDrake

... the look in Bradys eye and his demeanor is so obviously different in playoff games.

WHOA! There it is, folks! Objective evidence beyond all doubt that Tom Brady CHOKES in playoff games! Yes, you read it here first -- it's all his fault! Nothing to do with the game plan, offensive coordinator play calling, receiver route running/catching (or dropping), blitz protection, offensive line play, defense-determined field position, opponent schemes, etc., etc. Forget the other 105 guys in uniform and what they may or may not do, because the New England Patriots' playoff fortunes are decided solely and unequivocally by Tom Brady's suddenly unstable mental state. How on earth was he able to muster 320 yards passing against Baltimore last week? Must've been dumb luck amidst his mysterious mental breakdown. What a schlub. He just can't handle the pressure any longer. Damn choker.

***AndyJohnson*** · 01-28-2013, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MrNathanDrake

Like all sports, Football is very much a mental game.

Patriots offense has been huge in the regular season since 2007. But not so good in post-season.

I was looking at patriots.com video section and Brady post-game interviews before the Ravens this year. He keeps saying "its going to be a close game" and "Its going to come right down to the end". We ended up only scoring 13 points. Far below our average on the year, and the least points we scored all year.

It was a self-fulfilling prophecy. The body achieves what the mind believes (to a certain extent).

Brady wasn't his usual fiery self. He wasn't being a vocal leader. He wasn't pacing around the sidelines, yelling at team mates like he does in regular-season. He gets a different look in these big games. He's shrinking under the spotlight.

Even when we beat the Ravens in last years AFCCG, Brady played terrible. The defense really won that game for New England.

In last years SB, Brady played poorly as well. He panicked and hurt the team by taking a Safety in the end zone. He tossed up a bad INT to Chase Blackburn of all people. And New England failed to put up 20 points again.

It started in 2007. When all the talk of "best QB ever" and "best team ever" began. The pressure was too much for Brady. Now every year when the playoffs roll around and the Pats stomp someone, the media goes on about the Pats elusive 4th ring, and Brady crumbles.

Bash me all you want. ***** about the defense all you want. We have most of our money tied up in Brady, OLine, and Tight Ends. It's THEM who should be winning us games, not the defense. It's the offense who is failing to show up in big games, not the defense. I really really want BB and Brady to get one more ring. But I don't think we get another Superbowl win unless Brady sorts this crap out.

BTW - This should've been "the year" for New England. The stars aligned perfectly. We got a 1st rd Bye after it looked unlikely. We got Home Field throughout after it looked unlikely. The defense played well against BMore, forcing 3 and outs and holding up until the middle of the 3rd qtr. Our offense put up 0 points in the entire second half.

Deny it all you want. Brady choked.... again.

P L E A S E S T O P
We lost, have some dignity.
This team has spent 12 years saying every opponent is going to be tough, all of a sudden Brady talked himself into failing?

But thanks for telling us how the man you have never met thinks, it was entertaining.

kennyb · 01-28-2013, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by pherein

No disrespect, but disrespect intended, but who are you to disrespect a huge fan, and consistant poster like tuna?
Hes been here year after year. You have 188 post. your a nothing duck, and starting to piss me off.

He insulted me. I'm not a blind homer so I guess that's a sin. I wasn't aware he owns the message boards and is allowed to insult people. Be pissed off.

pherein · 01-28-2013, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by kennyb

You've never heard of the word 'sulk' and I'm stupid? Ha ha. Look at brady's face in the playoffs. Dejected. Defeated. His pic SB in the dictionary. I like the guy too...I want him to get over it.

I get your mad and drunk. Thats ok.

***AndyJohnson*** · 01-28-2013, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by iapatsfan

In my opinion, Brady is slowly losing the number one ability that made him the player he was or is. To me, the thing that always made Brady special was his unique ability to stay calm under pressure. I don't know if it's getting older or what, but Brady now seems to regularly make horrible plays when he perceives pressure, even when it's not actually there. How many times does he just throw the ball in the dirt because he wrongly thinks someone is closing in on him? How often did this use to happen? This is what use to differentiate Brady from other players. Drew developed the same problem at a much younger age. This is why they stick to the quick release passing game. I don't blame Brady, and I think he will still be effective in the instances where he can get rid of the ball quick or they give him a perfect pocket, but I do think it's time to groom some new blood that still has the fearlessness when pressure is all around.

I know Brady has had great seasons the last three years, but if you haven't seen his increase in folding under both real and perceived pressure, you are blind.

Guess I am blind. Please describe 'folding'.