Elephant in the Room -- Tom Brady's Mental block in big games - Page 28 - New England Patriots Forums

PatsFanUpNorth · 01-31-2013, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ctpatsfan77

11 years. 2008 doesn't count.

incredibly incredible ! :-)

***Deus Irae*** · 01-31-2013, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ivanvamp

Deus,I've seen you mention this a couple of times now, and I'm surprised to see you make this mistake. The last points the Patriots scored in last year's Super Bowl came on their first drive of the third quarter. They scored a TD to end the first half, putting them up 7-9. Then they opened up the second half with another TD to put them up 17-9. The Giants then scored the last 12 points of the game.

So why are you insisting that, in your own words, Brady led them to a go-ahead score in the fourth quarter of SB 46?

Excuse me, for fumbling the post. You're correct. He's led them to second-half leads that lasted until less than 5 minutes left in the game. I was thinking about the 4th quarter drive where Welker and Branch dropped passes, and I converged the two in my writing. One drive (2011) was in the 3rd quarter and one drive (2007) was in the 4th quarter. The rest of my post still stands.

***Tunescribe*** · 01-31-2013, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by MoLewisrocks

The old adage you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink also applies to the jackass...

The ultimate irony here is how elephants have been unfairly implicated. The elephant is a highly intelligent creature.

PatsFanSince74 · 01-31-2013, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Deus Irae

See, this is the problem. You seem to think you're giving us the rosetta stone when you're giving us nothing at all. In Both Super Bowls post '04, Tom Brady has led his team to the go-ahead scores in the 4th quarter.

In 2007, the Patriots took the lead with less than 3 minutes to go. It's not Brady's fault that Tyree made the helmet catch, the officials didn't call obvious holding calls, Samuel missed an INT opportunity and the coaching staff called an all-out-blitz that Manning knew was coming. In 2011, the Patriots took the lead early in the 4th quarter. It's not Brady's fault that there were key drops after that.

It's a team game and the offenses struggled in those games, but Brady wasn't tossing out a pick-6 in the Super Bowl, unlike Manning. He was leading comeback drives.

Thanks, Deus. That pretty much sums it up.
I'm outa here.
Practice Squad, Mods?

olschool · 01-31-2013, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by PatsFanSince74

Thanks, Deus. That pretty much sums it up.
I'm outa here.
Practice Squad, Mods?

Same here. Jeesh, I hate the offseason. C'mon September !

eom · 01-31-2013, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by TommyBrady12

Obviously you can't read...i never said brady was the single reason the pats have failed since 04'. It's him and the coaching staff ...those are the two biggest reasons.

What's your excuse for brady's safety in SB 46? How about the pick to blackburn - where he threw it to a guy who had a high ankle sprain? The less than accurate throw to welker? On the contrary some of you are blaming everyone BUT brady.

You can continue to defend brady with every tooth and nail you got, but his legacy is waning. The rest of the nation knows it too.

I haven't read this thread, so I don't know if this has been posted, or this is some kind of troll thread, or what, but

9/23 125/0/1 L
12/26 109/0/1 L
8/15 98/0/2 L (49-3)

I found these 3 postseason statlines for one particular qb -- want to guess who?

PP2 · 01-31-2013, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by olschool

Same here. Jeesh, I hate the offseason. C'mon April 25th!

Fixed your post.

***Tunescribe*** · 01-31-2013, 01:42 PM

Finally, this load of nonsense has been consigned to purgatory, where it belonged nearly 300 posts ago.

TommyBrady12 · 01-31-2013, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by eom

I haven't read this thread, so I don't know if this has been posted, or this is some kind of troll thread, or what, but

9/23 125/0/1 L
12/26 109/0/1 L
8/15 98/0/2 L (49-3)

I found these 3 postseason statlines for one particular qb -- want to guess who?

Montana already has 4 super bowl rings and 3 super bowl mvps, brady does not. Besides what does montana have to do with brady's inability to get ring #4? Montana is 4-0 in the super bowl, brady is 3-2 which is more elway-esque. Montana didn't throw a single int in the super bowl, brady did. Montana lost 3 ccgs in his career, brady lost 2 sbs and 2 ccgs.

Only 1 qb has one a super bowl past age 35 - wanna guess who?

pherein · 01-31-2013, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by TommyBrady12

Brady has won the SBs with deion branch, bethel johnson, troy brown, etc. there is no reason why he could have performed better with welker, lloyd and Ahern. We were all praisng brady for winning with crummy receivers in the pat, now gronk goes down and peopke have a thousand excuses for why they lost. It's either brady or the coaching that's the problem.

Well you might be a better recieving core, but your defense was much better before also in the past. So, tit for tat.
Im sure Brady messed up a bit. Like the time management. But I didnt see him choke and cost you the game. I saw a lot of things that went wrong, and that just happens sometimes, and you dont win.

Brees didnt choke because we lost. He put up the points. The defense just crumbled.
Theres a lot to look at objectively. Is the OL holding, are WR open, TE's getting open, run game working, is Brady seeing open guys…

No No NO.. Matt Ryan choked, gonzales is clearly open on the last play vs SF, and still throws to a double covered white center field. Thats my friend is choking.
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I did not see Brady do that.