Originally Posted by TommyBrady12

Yet it's up to the QB and coaching staff to find a way to win against these tough defenses. If they can't do it then they are overrated. Heck the redskins found a way to beat the ravens with a rookie QB, why can't the patriots? What's the excuse next year when the pats face another tough defense in the playoffs? The pats can't beat either the giants or ravens who have knocked them out 4 out of the past 6 years - if the team can't adjust and find ways to beat them a second time around then there is a major problem.

Originally Posted by The_Riddler

LOL, ya, makes sense. Houston and Denver in first round home playoff games are HUGE GAMES ??? That is funny. How about addressing the post I put up above instead of talking about Tommy's numbers against CRAP first round playoff teams who probably had no business being in the playoffs in the first place?

Do you have any explanation for what I pointed out above? The bigger the game, the bigger Tommy's eyes have been getting. It's been proven.

Originally Posted by ivanvamp

Tom Brady in Super Bowls and AFCCGs:

2001 AFCCG: 12-18, 115 yds, 0 td, 0 int, 84.3 rating
2001 SB: 16-27, 145 yds, 1 td, 0 int, 86.2 rating
2003 AFCCG: 22-37, 237 yds, 1 td, 1 int, 76.1 rating
2003 SB: 32-48, 354 yds, 3 td, 1 int, 100.5 rating
2004 AFCCG: 14-21, 207 yds, 2 td, 0 int, 130.5 rating
2004 SB: 22-33, 236 yds, 2 td, 0 int, 110.2 rating
2006 AFCCG: 21-34, 232 yds, 1 td, 1 int, 79.5 rating
2007 AFCCG: 22-33, 209 yds, 2 td, 3 int, 66.4 rating
2007 SB: 29-48, 266 yds, 1 td, 0 int, 82.5 rating
2011 AFCCG: 22-36, 239 yds, 0 td, 2 int, 57.5 rating
2011 SB: 27-41, 276 yds, 2 td, 1 int, 91.1 rating
2012 AFCCG: 29-54, 320 yds, 1 td, 2 int, 62.3 rating

TOT: 12 g, 268-430 (62.3%), 2836 yds, 16 td, 11 int, 83.2 rating
AVG: 22-36 (62.3%), 236 yds, 1.3 td, 0.9 int

That's not terrible, but it's not really very good compared to his usual standards. And it's understandable - he's facing the best competition in the league at that point. It makes sense that his stats would look a little worse. But that's a pretty sizeable dropoff.

What's disturbing is that he's had 6 games (4 AFCCGs and 2 SBs) since their last SB victory, and in those 6 games, only once has he had a rating of better than 90 (2011 SB), and only twice has he had a rating of better than 80 (2011 SB, 2007 SB).

Last 4 AFCCG passer ratings: 79.5, 66.4, 57.5, 62.3

Yikes.

Originally Posted by Deus Irae

See, you don't bother thinking before you post, and this is more evidence of that. You, yourself, cited the the 2010 Jets game as some part of your proof. That game was, of course, a "first round home playoff game". Also, let's not forget the Denver game from last year. Of course, it's another "first round home playoff game", but the last time I checked, playoff games are big games and that game was a rematch, too, and that's what your argument was looking at.

Instead of just mindlessly jumping to a conclusion and then trying to back it with evidence later, try looking at the evidence first and then reaching a conclusion based on it. The you'll be less likely to have to clown yourself by claiming first round playoff games aren't big games when you've already used one in your argument about big games, and you'll be less likely to have to argue that 12-4 teams are crap teams.

Originally Posted by The_Riddler

Here's the issue:

In 07 the Pats scored 38 points against the Giants in that last game of the season ? Yet, when it mattered, in the Superbowl, yes, against that same Giants defense, Tommy got the deer in the headlights look again on the big stage and put up 17.

In 10 the Pats scored 45 points against that Jets defense, Yet, when it mattered, in a home playoff game against a hated rival, WHEN THE LIGHTS GOT A BIT BRIGHTER, Tommy puts up 21 and throws a game changing pick on a poorly thrown screen pass that changed the entire complexion of the game.

In 12 the Pats scored 30 points (at Baltimore mind you), yet on the big stage again at the AFCCG on his home field, he puts up 13 points.

It's easy to do the math, these same defenses he torched during the regular season he craps the bed against in the playoffs when the BIG LIGHTS ARE TURNED ON.

The bigger the moment, the bigger Tommy's eyes have been getting. This can't be denied. Only the true homer's can deny this.

Originally Posted by borg

Not really G.O.A.T stats are they. In Disney sports movies, the G.O.A.Ts elevate their teams with unparalleled performances, not with Sanchezian mediocrity.

Originally Posted by The_Riddler

First of all, Bill Clinton, can you answer the question? You're dancing around the true issue like a true Clinton, c'mon, man up, you can admit it, you can do it. Answer the question about the Bigger the game, the poorer the Tommy performance. Please you can do it. Don't make an ass out of yourself and ignore it.

Regarding the Jets team (first round game) as you say. I consider that Jet team to be totally worthy, as a matter of fact, they went to the AFCCG. That Jets team was head and shoulders better than that crap Denver or Houston team Tommy had to face (at home). So how's that for an answer. Not to mention, that first round Jets game was yes, against the JETS, WHICH IS MY DAMN POINT (A PRESSURE GAME). Again another HIGH PRESSURE, HIGH IMPACT GAME. AKA The "BIG LIGHTS" we all knew how big that game was, don't give me this crap about the Jets being a light-weight first round opponent.

I can't argue with a homer like yourself, because you'll never get it or admit it, simply because it's Tommy. I understand.

Originally Posted by Deus Irae

I've answered the question time and again, and I don't need to repeat it in order to show your argument here to be a poor one. Your argument here was absurd, and you're now pimping the Jets rather than just admitting you were wrong, which is particularly ironic because of your last paragraph. That you are clowning yourself is nobody's fault but your own.

Originally Posted by The_Riddler

First of all, Bill Clinton, can you answer the question? You're dancing around the true issue like a true Clinton, c'mon, man up, you can admit it, you can do it. Answer the question about the Bigger the game, the poorer the Tommy performance. Please you can do it. Don't make an ass out of yourself and ignore it.

Regarding the Jets team (first round game) as you say. I consider that Jet team to be totally worthy, as a matter of fact, they went to the AFCCG. That Jets team was head and shoulders better than that crap Denver or Houston team Tommy had to face (at home). So how's that for an answer. Not to mention, that first round Jets game was yes, against the JETS, WHICH IS MY DAMN POINT (A PRESSURE GAME). Again another HIGH PRESSURE, HIGH IMPACT GAME. AKA The "BIG LIGHTS" we all knew how big that game was, don't give me this crap about the Jets being a light-weight first round opponent.

I can't argue with a homer like yourself, because you'll never get it or admit it, simply because it's Tommy. I understand.

Originally Posted by borg

Not really G.O.A.T stats are they. In Disney sports movies, the G.O.A.Ts elevate their teams with unparalleled performances, not with Sanchezian mediocrity.