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Dude is in his first year and is already banged up, he has been injured a lot and mind you he is 23 so his body heals faster. The hits will surely take a toll on his body and playing style when he gets older, See Vick for example.
The redskins gave up two first round picks to get him, they should use a little bit of common sense in the way they handle him. If he felt he wouldnt be able to play today he should have approached his coach and should have said that "Listen coach i dont think i can lead this team to a victory today" what is he afraid of? that Cousins will end up taking his job like what happened in SF? i highly doubt it, Of all the rookie QBs drafted this year RG3 in my opinion is the most talented. But i am getting a little tired of his hero act.Same thing with Big BABY Ben, he falls down and winces after every down, but then he acts like a hero and comes to play on one leg and with a single arm functioning and then struggles to throw the ball 5 yards.
Someone needs to tell RG3 that the redskins fans will forget him in a few years if he is done in a year or two in the league, No redskins fan will tell their children a decade down the line "Hey Mark we used to have a QB who was the bravest of them all, he would take a lot of hits and still come back to play on crutches". RG3 needs to use some common sense here, The redskins are a good team and i see them winning the NFC East if he stays healthy and the team plays the way they did this year.
A friend of mine summed it up nicely
"We lost today because our coach thought the kids pride was more important than a victory"
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The problem with Griffin (and running QBs in general) is that they often have tons of success early in the season, but wear down and get hurt as the season goes on. Unfortunately, it's the games at the end of the season that really matter, and those are the games where these QBs aren't healthy. So while there's more interest in these dual threats than in recent years, I'm happy with a QB whose "mobility skills" only consist of avoiding pass rushers within a five by five yard box.
If I could Build a franchise around either Luck, Wilson, or RG3, I'd take Luck or Wilson. RG3 Is just too fragile and relys too much on his ability to scramble. He's a talented QB who will do good for that franchise if he can stay healthy.
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Re: How long do you think RG3 will last in the NFL?
The concept of a QB that can run at a high level but also operate a successful passing game is not new. I think Kordell Stewart started as the Steelers QB around 10 years ago. The college ranks have been producing plenty of QBs with these type skills for many years now. Yet they largely haven't caught on in the NFL. One reason for that, IMHO (my theory), has to do with the running itself. With pro coverage schemes so intricate and effective, the ability to operate a successful passing attack against the better competition of the NFL has a dependency on rhythm and a high repetition of doing it. A QB that has a high frequency of runs will likely miss those critical reps needed to not only operate a high yield passing attack but aid in taking his game to a higher level. A truth of the NFL, whatever you do in the NFL as a rookie probably needs to be markedly better in year 3 and year 4. Put another way, if you are doing in year 3 what you were doing in year 1, your success is probably waning (again, just a theory).
Another reason, which the OP touched on, when you have large wrecking machines like Ray Lewis in the waiting, the amount of hits you accrue will effect your physical health -- especially considering the unique punishment QBs already take (standing in place, sometimes in vulnerable positions while blitzers hit you at high force, sometimes blind siding you). Even with the near coddling QBs are afforded by the NFL (which is a fact that will help RGIII to a degree), the unique punishment by big and ferocious defenders is going to be significant.
RGIII is probably running the dual threat better than just about all others to date (in part) because of his sleeker size (also in part because he is also producing very well in the passing game). He is just about as agile as it comes for someone at the starting QB position. But the sleek size makes his future durability a very iffy thing (far too quickly if he doesn't learn to duck). Now a player like Cam Newton? His significantly greater size has a better shot at longer term durability. If he can elevate his passing game abilities and his team gets a defense? I like his chances better. But his passing game ability, his ability to protect the ball, ability to complete the third down throws at a solid frequency has got to be elevated. So far Cam Newton year 2 appears to equal Cam newton year 1.
Disregarding the mediots belief that this is the skillset of all future QBs, I am not yet sold on the RGIII mold of QB. You have to appreciate the level of excitement a rookie! adds to the game yet has there been a QB of that mold that has put together more than a successful season? A bit early to declare this skill set the wave of the future given that the 4 arguably best teams in the league are manned by the drop back passer (Atl, GB, Den, NE). With that said, this skillset type QB is providing some success quickly, getting positive attention for the team, putting butts in the seats/people in front of the TV. With enormous pressure to win right now and the seemingly slower process to build a high caliber team around a drop back passer, IMHO there is going to be plenty of teams that go this route in the next few years. If I then see these teams have the high level success semi akin to the Patriots or GB or PM teams? I'll then believe the mediots (I dislike having to agree with the mediots on anything though).
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Re: How long do you think RG3 will last in the NFL?
Throughout the years there were qb's that could run. It's funny that the media makes up the dumb headlines like having a mobile qb is a brand new concept.
Re: How long do you think RG3 will last in the NFL?
While I agree that if a QB sustains these types of injuries every year they won't last, there's no reason to jump to conclusions about this actually happening every year.
Cam Newton is in year 2 and has been doing the same thing. Never even been dinged up. Russel Wilson has played all season. Not a scratch. Colin K's held up so far. Tebow's had broken ribs, but otherwise been ok too and he's more of a bruiser when it comes to running than RG3 is.
RG3's injuries have been unfortunate, but it's too early to say this is the norm. Everyone suffers concussions, so I don't see his first injury a big deal. As for his second, flinging your legs in the air while diving to the ground....well that's not part of his "style". That's just a freak injury.
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