How long do you think RG3 will last in the NFL? - Page 4 - New England Patriots Forums

PatriotSeven · 01-07-2013, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by patsfan13

RGIII (and Wilson) is a High IQ QB with throwing skills, that differentiates them from other 'running' QB's

That may be true as far as a passer, but if he keeps running he needs to be a high IQ running back too.

I still say people are overacting a bit. It's not like he's getting 20 carries a game. Even with all his rushing, he's averaged 7.5 carries per game. How much more can you bring that down before you have pretty much eliminated his rushing threat completely and are no longer capable of running the spread option?

I'll maintain what happened to RG3 this year is more of a result of unfortunate circumstances along with him being too excited to do too much and I don't expect to repeat each and every season. Besides, guys like Michael Vick took most of his punishment in the pocket anyway. And even Brady got his leg broken in the pocket.

***Deus Irae*** · 01-07-2013, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by PatriotSeven

That may be true as far as a passer, but if he keeps running he needs to be a high IQ running back too.

I still say people are overacting a bit. It's not like he's getting 20 carries a game. Even with all his rushing, he's averaged 7.5 carries per game. How much more can you bring that down before you have pretty much eliminated his rushing threat completely and are no longer capable of running the spread option?

I'll maintain what happened to RG3 this year is more of a result of unfortunate circumstances along with him being too excited to do too much and I don't expect to repeat each and every season. Besides, guys like Michael Vick took most of his punishment in the pocket anyway. And even Brady got his leg broken in the pocket.

This kid has already had an ACL injury in the past. We're not talking about a first time injury. What happened to RG3 is the result of playing his style in the NFL. What happened to him last night is the result of a head coach who is obsessed with becoming relevant again to the point where, in an era where Goodell screams about safety every chance he can, Shanahan didn't do the right thing with the player who's supposed to be the future of the Redskins franchise.

Shanahan should be fired today.

thenepatsrule · 01-07-2013, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by MoLewisrocks

The scary part for this kid is he already tore that ACL. If in fact he's torn in again we're in new territory rehab and career wise. And considering he went for an MRI last night and we had results of his earlier MRI within hours...

Novelties wear thin in a hurry in the Not For Long league. Defenses focus on ways to limit or eliminate them. And as an earlier poster said, if you are not improving in your first 3-4 seasons in this league you are losing ground and getting worse. Griffin appears to have some passing skill that some of the earlier versions were lacking. However, if he loses the threat his mobility poses schmatically he's going to have to aspire to TFB pocket passer levels in order to thrive or possibly even survive because the way defenses approach him will be dramatically different absent that threat to take off and run.

well said

thenepatsrule · 01-07-2013, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by patsfan13

RGIII (and Wilson) is a High IQ QB with throwing skills, that differentiates them from other 'running' QB's

What use is the High IQ of if the QB tears his ACL or breaks his league, mind you they dont play QB from a wheelchair , They actually need to be able to stand on their legs which will be more and more difficult if RG3 keeps getting injured the way he has done this year

***MoLewisrocks*** · 01-07-2013, 11:51 AM

Too many mediots hiding today behind cover of defending the platitudes the player and coach are spewing. Barnwell nails the real issues.

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What was more noticeable was how little Griffin offered as a passer. His mechanics were clearly out of whack: He wasn't able to step into his throws and plant, turning the normally accurate Griffin into a scattershot passer. He sailed many of his throws, an issue that often comes into play with quarterbacks who aren't able to execute their footwork properly because of a lower-body injury.

You can forgive the Redskins for giving Griffin a drive or two to examine whether he would be able to contribute to the cause. You can't fault Griffin's guts for wanting to play, either. But it became clear no later than halftime that Griffin was more than limited; he was far below the level of a replacement-level quarterback, let alone at the level of a healthy Kirk Cousins.

The second question is much thornier. "Were the Redskins making a decision that had Robert Griffin III's best interests in mind?" The process that went into leaving Griffin in is more complicated than that, and it speaks to just how seriously the league takes some very antiquated and foolish ideas. After the game, Mike Shanahan's press conference was a farce of the highest order. First, Shanahan went through the basic tenets of coach's privilege, one by one.

Shanahan's story, in the end, saw him rely on that most tried-and-true coaching adage. "You've gotta go with your gut," Shanahan said. He might have thought about considering his eyes, too.

Bill Barnwell on the weekend's wild-card games - Grantland

Bella*chick · 01-07-2013, 11:57 AM

Some of the early rumblings on RG3 not too good. ACL/PCL has been floated around. Possibly missing all next season?

This is just a few tweets, but it's on extremeskins.com right now and people are stunned.

PATRIOTSFANINPA · 01-07-2013, 12:01 PM

Anyone can see RGIII has strong but very thin and fragile legs....I could see some broken legs and banged up knees in his future.....he is not going to be a 10 year QB.

If he were a WR,he would probably be around a lot longer

PATSYLICIOUS · 01-07-2013, 12:08 PM

My response has been posted already more than a few times so I'll just say this: F*** YOU rat faced lunatic. I hope you get fired

Bella*chick · 01-07-2013, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by PATSYLICIOUS

My response has been posted already more than a few times so I'll just say this: F*** YOU rat faced lunatic. I hope you get fired

I always thought Shanny looked like a serial killer.

PatriotSeven · 01-07-2013, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by PATSYLICIOUS

My response has been posted already more than a few times so I'll just say this: F*** YOU rat faced lunatic. I hope you get fired

Wow, that's a little harsh. Not sure he is deserving of all of this hate.

Shanahan did play him in 2 back to back games, had doctor approval for those and this game, and RG3 was ok. Besides, I'm pretty sure RG3 wouldn't have wanted it any other way especially with the way Kirk has been playing. The idea that Cousins could come in, carry the team further into the playoffs and potentially losing his job didn't sit well with RG3 either. Unfortunately he didn't think about the fact it could cost him more than just the starting job for the Redskins.

What I'm more concerned with is if the initial MRI was a tear, rather than a sprain and someone missed the boat completely doing serious damage to his knee.