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Old 01-07-2013, 04:50 AM   #11
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Throughout the years there were qb's that could run. It's funny that the media makes up the dumb headlines like having a mobile qb is a brand new concept.

Top 10 mobile quarterbacks in NFL history

I checked out the top ten mobile QBs and there were very few NFL titles on the list and none in the last few decades. There's a reason for that.

IMHO all NFL QBs that run with the ball will eventually suffer the same fate as Griffin. It's just a matter of time.
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Old 01-07-2013, 05:02 AM   #12
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And that list made me laugh, for anyone who'd use that example: Dan Marino is on it.

Find me a quarterback who is JUST known for his running ability without having another superior passing game trait....that is successful...for a long time... and I'll tell you it'd be the first time.
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Old 01-07-2013, 05:08 AM   #13
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Honestly I think the #1 reason they really won't take over is because of the amount of credit and attention they get minimizing other prolific positions. The quarterback already gets credited enough as it is, but when you have a guy who scrambles, it takes even more away from your receivers and running backs.

If I'm Adrian Peterson, I'd rather not play with RG3/Newton/Wilson. And if you do put him together with one of these guys, then all you're going to hear is "they have no receivers, who is he throwing the ball to?", etc.

There's just room for more stars on a team with a pocket passer, imo. That's one thing I love about the Patriots. Every thread is not about Tom Brady. I love watching, crediting and talking about Wes, Gronk, Hernandez, Lloyd, Edelman, Woodhead, Ridely, etc and I'm very excited to see what a guy like Jeff Demps might do for us next year.

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Old 01-07-2013, 05:17 AM   #14
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I hope he plays for well over a decade, and with success. As a DC resident, I've seen a lot of him on TV this year, and he struck me as one of the most emotionally and intellectually mature young men I'd ever seen. Generous with his time, not wrapped up in the hype about him, and gracious to interviewers, without being patronizing. The African American kids growing up in the tougher parts of this city will benefit from his presence and modeling.
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He has to smarten up his game and protect himself more.

Russell Wilson looks far better in that regard. He will throw the ball away, he will slide, he will run out of bounds before contact.

Luck is another guy. He is doing his best rapistberger impression holding on to the ball and yet when the pressure finally gets there i've seen him make some bad decisions. Even in the Ravens game there could've been a few bad picks. Just throw the goddamn ball away when the play is dead and live to fight another day or down.
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RG3 has the biggest upside of any player in the league. He just ran into some bad luck this season. Eventually, he will reach the postseason at 100% health and THEN... watch out!!
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Old 01-07-2013, 07:12 AM   #17
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RGIII is a very smart young man. He has the skills to be a pocket passer and he'll figure out how to be a really effective QB without the running game being so prominent. As weird as it sounds, this knee injury (assuming it's not catastrophic of course) in his rookie season may be a blessing in disguise. It'll force him into thinking about how he can alter his game to better protect himself. Of course he also needs a coaching staff (Mike "Idiot" Shanahan) that helps him do that.

Another QB who's taken a beating this season is Andrew Luck. Colts need some O line help. Yikes!!
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RGIII is a very smart young man. He has the skills to be a pocket passer and he'll figure out how to be a really effective QB without the running game being so prominent. As weird as it sounds, this knee injury (assuming it's not catastrophic of course) in his rookie season may be a blessing in disguise. It'll force him into thinking about how he can alter his game to better protect himself. Of course he also needs a coaching staff (Mike "Idiot" Shanahan) that helps him do that.

Another QB who's taken a beating this season is Andrew Luck. Colts need some O line help. Yikes!!
This actually about sums it up.

Vick still hasn't displayed RG III's pocket ability. Why anyone would get him hammered like that is hard to grasp.

An interesting list would be "Top 10 old mobile QB's".
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Unlike Vick, the man can throw accurately. I agree losing some quickness may force him to adapt to a style that will keep him in the NFL for more years. If he keeps with his current style, he will not last long. He is not 260, like a Daunte Culpepper, with a body to take big hits in the NFL (for that matter, Culpepper, even with his size, got beaten down in a relatively short career and in his later years unsuccessfully tried to do what RGIII should do now, and that is become a pocket passer).
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The scary part for this kid is he already tore that ACL. If in fact he's torn in again we're in new territory rehab and career wise. And considering he went for an MRI last night and we had results of his earlier MRI within hours...

Novelties wear thin in a hurry in the Not For Long league. Defenses focus on ways to limit or eliminate them. And as an earlier poster said, if you are not improving in your first 3-4 seasons in this league you are losing ground and getting worse. Griffin appears to have some passing skill that some of the earlier versions were lacking. However, if he loses the threat his mobility poses schmatically he's going to have to aspire to TFB pocket passer levels in order to thrive or possibly even survive because the way defenses approach him will be dramatically different absent that threat to take off and run.
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