Any questions as to whether the Colts tanked last season? - Page 2 - New England Patriots Forums

The Gr8est · 12-02-2012, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MUFC7

If last year isn't a indication that the NFL needs a draft lottery I don't know what will make it change. I would bet that a team will suck again for Manziel (if he will be that got once he can be drafted)

I hope that never happens. I hate draft lotteries.

Is it better that a truly bad team gets the difference maker, or, for example, in the NBA, for an injured, but not bad team like San Antonio, to get to draft the difference maker in Tim Duncan?

If you are a player on a team that is so bad that they get the top pick, aren't you a likely player to be replaced?

Brady=Dilf · 12-02-2012, 08:55 PM

If you think the Colts were legitimately trying to tank the season, why didn't they stick with Curtis Painter? A team that is trying to tank is not going to start Dan Orlovsky with 5 games left. They started Orlovsky and he won 2 of the 5 last games. Almost won a 3rd one and lost to us by a touchdown. This argument just doesn't hold any water.

Anteros · 12-02-2012, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Brady=Dilf

Wrong. They completely gutted the entire team and installed new schemes on offense and defense. That and the fact they are 7-1 in one score games is why they are 8-4.

Returning starters on offense:
Donald Brown (benched, only started 4 games)
Reggie Wayne
Joe Reitz (hurt, only started 4 games)

Returning starters on defense:
Antoine Bethea
Dwight Freeney (missed 2 games)
Robert Mathis (missed 4 games)
Jerraud Powers (missed 4 games, on IR)
Antonio Johnson
Kavell Conner

This "talent" you speak of from last year is completely gone. You don't keep around scrubs from a 2-14 team. They cut nearly everyone. Dallas Clark, Joseph Addai, Gary Brackett, Tamme is in Denver, Lacey in Detroit. Gonzalez was cut I think and the Pats actually brought him in and then cut him. Their entire LB core except Kavell Conner was cut or not resigned. Angerer lost his job to an ex-CFL player and is now depth.

Look at their offense. Two rookie starting TEs, rookie starting RB, castoff O-linemen, new starting WR, two rookie WRs, and a rookie QB.

The single biggest reason why they went 2-14? No Peyton Manning. Remember that their team is built to win with a lead. That lead comes from having Peyton under center. Once the Colts build a lead, teams are forced to throw against their tampa 2 coverage which was actually very good against the pass. It worked in their favor. That's why the Colts rarely ever blew double digit leads but it did happen a few times.

Now put in a scrub like Curtis Painter under center or Kerry Collins/Dan orlovsky, and that entire philosophy crumbles. How do you get a lead with these guys under center? They suck. That's why they went 2-14. Completely different philosophy this year.

You're making too much sense here.

Brady=Dilf · 12-02-2012, 09:00 PM

They aren't going 12-4 by the way, probably 9-7 or 10-6 and a 1st round playoff exit.

robbomango · 12-02-2012, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Brady=Dilf

They aren't going 12-4 by the way, probably 9-7 or 10-6 and a 1st round playoff exit.

I'm having a hard time taking anything you say seriously with that user ID, sorry. Brady=Dilf as in Dilfer??? lmao

fnordcircle · 12-02-2012, 09:05 PM

If I was an NFL player the last goddamn thing I'd do is play ****ty on purpose just so a team that might cut me at a moment's notice can draft and overpay some college phenom.

If I was an NFL coach the last goddamn thing I'd do is coach ****ty on purpose just so a team who might fire me and leave me with no options but going to some crappy team that just canned a coordinator just so the team can draft and overpay some college phenom.

If I was an NFL front office exec the last goddamn thing I'd do is handle the personnel and business side of things in a purposefully deleterious manner just so a team that might fire me and hire some other coach can draft and overpay some college phenom.

I mean it just makes no sense for any of the people in charge of football decisions from the brass down to the field. These are people whose jobs are on the line year to year and there is a thin margin of error between making millions playing/coaching in the NFL and coaching some ****hole college team.

fnordcircle · 12-02-2012, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by robbomango

I'm having a hard time taking anything you say seriously with that user ID, sorry. Brady=Dilf as in Dilfer??? lmao

Dad I'd like to ****.

The_Riddler · 12-02-2012, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Brady=Dilf

They aren't going 12-4 by the way, probably 9-7 or 10-6 and a 1st round playoff exit.

Quick Question to you my friend, based on your being able to create an ID and get onto this site, it looks like Indy has come a long way, there is finally internet access out in corn country, that is tremendous news. Look, your team rolled over like dogs for Andrew Luck, everyone knows it. Your team really made alot of people question the intergrity of the game alot last year. You should be ashamed.

robbomango · 12-02-2012, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by fnordcircle

Dad I'd like to ****.

oh, lol I'm gettin old

PatsWSB47 · 12-02-2012, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Brady=Dilf

If you think the Colts were legitimately trying to tank the season, why didn't they stick with Curtis Painter? A team that is trying to tank is not going to start Dan Orlovsky with 5 games left. They started Orlovsky and he won 2 of the 5 last games. Almost won a 3rd one and lost to us by a touchdown. This argument just doesn't hold any water.

Please. Luck was the prize. They dumped Peyton and played for Luck. The game they lost by a TD was to us.It wasn't anywhere near as close as the score indicated. No real way they expected they'd actually beat us. They lost the remaining games handily....guess it got too close for comfort. Painter wasn't benched until the remaining schedule made it clear they could not screw up getting Luck. It was a calculated season, period.