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Semi OT: Pioli's Paranoia?
We've all worked in jobs (particulary in high-tech) where our employer was a bit on the anal side. This article paints Pioli on par with the CIA.
I wonder how much Pioli has implemented in KC that was done in Foxboro?
My take is that he is going a bit overboard and many of the axed employees have an agenda.
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Since Scott Pioli was hired as general manager in January 2009, life for many inside the Chiefs’ front office has been marked by massive staff turnover, fear and insecurity about how closely they are watched. Numerous current and former staffers paint a picture of constant worry — and, in a few cases, of alleged age discrimination. Three former department heads sued the Chiefs in 2011, though the team has denied wrongdoing.
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Pioli’s background was with the New England Patriots, a team known for its devotion to privacy and bending the rules. As he promised, the environment changed. Some said it changed too much.
This one is funny..
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During his first year, Pioli noticed a candy wrapper in a back stairwell and waited to see how long it took to be picked up. About a week passed, and it remained in the stairwell. He placed the wrapper in an envelope, and during a meeting of department heads, Donovan, then the team’s chief operating officer, brandished the wrapper as evidence of the attention to detail that Chiefs employees had grown to ignore.
This one too...
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But many saw Pioli as the face of the new way — and of overreaction. Melton said she frequently took the brunt of Pioli’s outbursts on such matters as the temperature in his office, the radio signal in the weight room, and how much the organization spent annually on coffee.
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Pioli pored over former president Denny Thum’s call log, a former high-ranking employee said, before Thum was asked to resign in September 2010 after 36 years with the team.
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This past year, Haley stopped talking on the phone and repeatedly checked his office for listening devices. After being fired, Haley didn’t respond to interview requests; many former staffers said they signed confidentiality agreements upon being let go.
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-Lots of PO'ed ex employees with an axe to grind.
-Haley is nuts.
-SP is a 1st time org leader and is putting his stamp on things. He may have gone overboard on a few items and will learn that true accountability and attention to detail isn't achieved by calling out people who drop candy wrappers. (if true).
We heard similar stories out of CLE when BB took over. Many of them were created by the mediots who were now denied the level of access to the team that they had previously.
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“I'm not really concerned about the other 31 teams,” - Bill Belichick
"If a player has talent and doesn't succeed, that means that they either don't want to be successful or I have failed as a coach." - Bill Belichick
I always thought Haley was a paranoid head case and this article confirms this. Why would anyone believe anything Haley said when he chewed Jim Harbaugh out this summer for running up the game in a GD preseason game?
Haley has some serious mental issues and he probably planted this story to get back at Pioli for firing him. I am sure that Pioli isn't the most fun guy to work for, but tampering with Haley's phone and bugging his offices?
he sounds like he's afraid of his own shadow.......
who would ever hire this guy again? or is he already in business somewhere?
does it ever bother you when the automated voice says 'this phone call may be recorded'
in an NFL front office, why would you not assume you are being bugged anyway? on top of that, you signed on with a GM....why would you not be 100% in that court anyway?
its one of these things that you should not have anything to worry about unless you are guilty of something.....sounds like he is guilty of something
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There is speculation Haley may end up with the Jets. Whoo boy, that could be a problem because Haley might accuse Rex of stealing his sandwich out of the fridge. It might something like this Friends episode:
I realized early on that Scott had made a HUGE mistake when I saw Haley treating the franchise tagged QB his GM had just traded for and signed to a long term deal publicly like some jag brought in for a competition while the troubled and dropsie prone but talented WR was being talked up. Coaching polar opposite to BB. And Pioli was allowing him to become the one voice in KC. That voice can't be an egotistical loose cannon, that's not how the system works. Then there were the veteran defections like Gonsalez who couldn't get the hell out of there fast enough and eventually Waters (who felt marginalized and scapegoated by the regime - I bet he could tell some tales and I bet he got some references before landing here). Then there was the chaos on offense as Haley fired Gailey on the eve of the season and the whole offense floundered while Matt took an unnecessary beating because Haley didn't want to run the ball even though he had the weapons to. Then Charlie and RAC came in and stabilized the whole thing only to have Charlie bail in a bizarre backwards lateral move. This season with a puppet OC you had Cassel screaming at the sidelines because they couldn't get plays in.
Like Bill always says, mistakes will kill you. And Pioli made a doozy right out of the gate. He also may have made a mistake in selecting KC as his first solo job too. I get he wanted a stable family owned franchise ripe for a turnaround as his base, but this second generation one came complete with wacko media who worshipped their emotional coaching toadys and a delusional fan base who always saw their return to the glory days as just around the corner. A lot like JETS fans. A total rebuild didn't appeal to them. Haley's arrogance and impatience did. They saw him as opposed to Scott and/or Matt as their savior out of the gate. Save the Schottenheimer/Vermeil tease years when they won a lot except when it mattered - yet remember foldly, they are at 42 years and counting - just a year less than the JETS have been waiting for a return to the Super Bowl.
They are so disillusioned no one has even updated their Wiki page noting Haley has been fired...LOL I feel for Scott and Matt but in the end we got Josh back and had Scott not gone to KC when he did that likely wouldn't have happened since he probably wouldn't have had any reason to use a #1 on Tebow after jettisoning Cutler.
Not sure Scott can recover from his first three year coaching mistake in that environment. But he will have other opportunities, which isn't a given for Haley on the heels of this article. Much like Mangini, his reputation as a self absorbed backstabber will prove highly toxic. Which is one reason I'd love for the JETS to give him a shot.
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Semi OT: Pioli's Paranoia?
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