Report of 59 fights in Stands - Page 3 - New England Patriots Forums

***PatsDeb*** · 09-13-2011, 03:07 PM

People who have had a few and are riled up at a game can do the most incredibly stupid things, even if they are Marines or 59 yr. old Jehovah's Witnesses.

Gunnails · 09-13-2011, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Haley

If you watch the video, you can see the cowboy fan is on his back during the incident. People don't generally attack others at random. It always take 2 to tango. While this Cowboys fan should not have brought this weapon into the stadium nor discharged it, these jets fans were far from innocent. The man clearly felt threatened and from his positioning in the video, I can see why.

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I would suggest the video does not show the initial contact or tell the whole story.

The fans attacked the Cowboy after he tased the Marine, the Cowboy then tased who ever he could at that point.

There was only one person arrested and charged with assault.

Seriously, you are at a game on the aniversary of 9/11 iand some doofus tasers a marine and sends him tumbling down the stairs. What to do?

PatsFanSince74 · 09-13-2011, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Gunnails

There was big mele at the Jets game also. Tasers and everything.

Read more: Cowboys fan uses Taser gun on Jets crowd at MetLife Stadium despite security on 9/11 anniversary

I thought Gary Myers later piece, appearing in this morning's Daily News (subscriber here) was more measured, and suggested that the encounter might have been more complex than the earlier article suggested. His concluding comment: "...at some point, people have to start respecting one another, regardless of what jersey they're wearing."

The tone of this, later, article, is very different from the earlier version's.

In other words, this wasn't necessarily an out of control Cowboys' fan, but, no matter how wrong he was to have the stun gun in the first place, a case of someone defending himself from attack because he was wearing a Cowboys' Jersey, in what we would all, nonetheless, agree was a misguided and illegal form of defense.

Read more: Leroy McKelvey's use of Taser gun on fans in Jets crowd another example of declining fan behavior

***NEGoldenAge*** · 09-13-2011, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Gunnails

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I would suggest the video does not show the initial contact or tell the whole story.

The fans attacked the Cowboy after he tased the Marine, the Cowboy then tased who ever he could at that point.

There was only one person arrested and charged with assault.

Seriously, you are at a game on the aniversary of 9/11 iand some doofus tasers a marine and sends him tumbling down the stairs. What to do?

You may suggest that, but you are wrong. The cowboys fan is on the ground at the begining of the video. You can actually hear the guy get tazed later on, then hear the Jet's fans reaction to it. Sounds like you're swallowing whatever they're spinning on the Jet's boards hook line and sinker.

PatsFanSince74 · 09-13-2011, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Gunnails

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I would suggest the video does not show the initial contact or tell the whole story.

The fans attacked the Cowboy after he tased the Marine, the Cowboy then tased who ever he could at that point.

There was only one person arrested and charged with assault.

Seriously, you are at a game on the aniversary of 9/11 iand some doofus tasers a marine and sends him tumbling down the stairs. What to do?

I think this is sadly going to end up a case of people seeing what they want to see. Unfortunately, the reputation of some Jets' fans for their behavior in the old stadium makes it hard to think this is a one-sided story.

But, as I said, I doubt there will be any resolution that satisfies everyone. But I do agree that the guy should suffer the consequences of carrying that weapon illegally.

Pujo · 09-13-2011, 03:24 PM

Who cares who started it, I'm guessing there were cases of both drunk New Yorker a-holes and drunk Texan a-holes starting fights. I haven't yet been to a game where someone hasn't gotten drunk and stupid.

As for who gets charged, it's usually not good being the visiting fan. Call it officiating bias of whatever.

Gunnails · 09-13-2011, 03:46 PM

I wasn't witness to the event let alone in the same state when the event in discussion happened.

My view is simply knee jerk to the reports i read.

I concede that my view may be wrong, but do not admit to that.

That said I think I will shut my big mouth.

Patriot_in_NY · 09-13-2011, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by brady199

there was about that many fights in the Raiders-Broncos game.

Only difference is that the Raider fans bring guns to theirs.

Only 59?

That actually doesn't seem to high. Look, you have 75,000 drunk people in the stands in 90 degree weather and they watched their team "***** the bed" from the half on. That total doesn't seem bad.

The fan stories I hate are the ones where people bring knives and tasers and all that crap. No call for that crap.

scout · 09-13-2011, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBaronPatriot

Fist pumps and sun glasses at night.
What a dbag.
Sparano, have you seen that sunglasses at night miller lite commercial?
It's about you.

You do understand why he wears sunglasses, right?

TheGodInAGreyHoodie · 09-13-2011, 04:40 PM

The reason for the melee at Dolphin stadium was as of a result of Animal Planet announcing on the jumbotron during the 3rd quarter that the TV show Flipper would not be shown on TV this seen despite an announcement by Dolphin GM Ireland last week that it would be.