shmessy

The beginning of the next stage - - the inevitable has happened. The cover-up is now being called exactly that by a top Jets beat writer in the know - Rich Cimini (their version of Mike Reiss).

New York Jets coach Sal Alosi acted alone? Not buying it - ESPN New York

"........Coach Rex Ryan and special teams coordinator Mike Westhoff both tried to distance themselves from the controversy, claiming that Alosi acted unilaterally. So they expect us to believe that a strength and conditioning coach, a guy at the bottom of the coaching-staff food chain, was doing something illegal and they knew nothing about it.

Sorry, but that doesn't pass the smell test.

In the everything-is-choreographed world of the NFL, it's hard to believe a strength coach was a solo rogue. One of Alosi's Gang of Five, a rookie tight end named Jeff Cumberland, said good 'ol Sal had been ordering the inactive players to stand that way since the beginning of the season.

And his superiors didn't know about it?

"Where it came from, I have absolutely no idea," Westhoff said with a straight face, refusing to admit he ordered the "Code Red." (Sorry, just some Col. Jessup humor from "A Few Good Men.)........

......And yet the Jets plead ignorance. Right. There's a term for this; it's called institutional knowledge."

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ausbacker

I double dare old Roger to strip their 2011 first round pick and fine them 250,000 big ones.

JSn

Honestly, I'm over it. The forming of the line doesn't bother me, that gunner wasn't supposed to be out of bounds.

The knee is bothersome, but I doubt that came from the top down. Just a stupid move he probably wished he could take back.

We're bigger than this, guys. We're just starting to sound like all the other haters. I even had a spurt earlier. Really not worth the energy. Let's just watch the Jets implode from their teams problems. Much more entertaining, imo.

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shmessy

Ya know, I was about to let it go also, until Westhoff hit the airwaves in Chicago yesterday afternoon.

In the meantime, the cover-up is the problem. The NFL did a cursory investigation Sunday night and was told by the Jets organization that it was all Alosi and that neither Ryan nor Westhoff had anything to do with it. At that point, the NFL agreed to let the Jets handle it in-house.

.....then a few folks came out of the woodwork and began to talk.....

Deceiving the league offices is the problem and no, Jsn, that won't be forgiven by them - - - THAT is what can cause Goodell and the lawyers to take action.

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JSn

Yeah, but in a more critical viewing of his comments, I think he's going between talking about the wall and the actual tripping as two separate things. I dunno, it just doesn't bother me anymore. I don't care if anything more than MAD distraction comes from it and they continue to implode.

The NFL won't do anything more, I wouldn't expect.

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ALP

let me get this straight, its allright for us to get punished for doing something b/c we were using an incorrect location for it, but not for the jets for this? nope, i dont think so

all should b fair, and fair says an NFL punishment is required

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JSn

Ok, but it was the player who was breaking rules by running out of bounds. The dudes were being dinks for standing that close to the line, but they weren't breaking any rules, as far as I can tell. Sal broke a rule (I assume) by kneeing the guy and he's been SEVERELY punished. I think it's over.

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Joker

you guys have been "letting it go" for three years now...because, mainly, you are all GOOD people and as good people think the rest of the people in this world are good, basically. Well, they are NOT. How many names do I have to drop, starting with the Ivan Boesky's and the Nixon cabinet....if there is ONE thing certain,it's that power corrupts...that's not hackneyed, trite or overused..it's TRUE.

Take a long look at Woody Johnson, look at the life history and behavior patterns of Roger Goodell...look at the coincidences I've brought up again and again, in an unceasing line going forward from 2006...look at all the media lies, the fabrications, the poisoned "leaks"...trace their roots...it's all green and it all starts in NY.

BY all means keep this alive ,Smessy...it is vital and necessary...and for the love of God, PLEASE...do not feel guilty for having these suspicions.

mesoslo

Players run out of bounds all the time. Players that are involved in the game during a live play should have more priority than sideline players, coaches.

So the fact that you dont try to get ou off the way is wrong no matter how you look at it.

If he shouldnt be out of bounds, then that just means opposing player shouldnt be abe to push him out of bounds.

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shmessy

Rich Cimini, the beat writer for ESPN NY (formerly 14 years with the NY Daily News) isn't as "over it" as you are.

He obviously thinks it's a big deal. Jsn, do you think someone who LIVES in NY, covers these people and needs access to the team actually WANTS to write a piece like this????? Think for a second, Jsn - - doesn't it dawn on you that there must be a huge amount of substance to this for someone like Cimini (not an attention whore like Felger, but a respected and top reporter like Reiss) to come out with this complete going out on a limb piece?????

Rule #1 is to consider the source. If Felger or Tomase wrote something like this about the Pats it would hold no water. If Reiss did, then that would be a huge deal. This is now a huge deal in New York, believe me. The ballgame has changed with this article.

You and I are certainly entitled to our opinions. However, someone who is much closer to the story and with much more experience and contact with the principals feels very differently about it.

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