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Clearly someone who doesn't know what he's talking about.
The Bad Call on Reeves occured prior to those 3 turnovers. You take that bad call out and the result of that bad call and what happens? Everything AFTER that changes. Instead of 1st and 10 from the Houston 19, it's 2nd and 10 from the Indy 38. And it changes what Indy does.
Only a complete moron things that everything else would stay the same.
Bad calls CAN decide games. Particularly when they are so egregiously incorrect.
Bad calls can change momentum and it helped to do that, no doubt. This call did not decide this game, by any means.
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Just because something was called a penalty doesn't mean it actually is one. I guess you don't understand the difference.
Ya, it pretty much does.
I understand the difference between someone thinking something isn't a penalty and then looking it up in the box score and it is. 20 years from now if I look up the box score it will still be a penalty, regardless of who thinks what. That's the difference.
Donaghey(sp) proved in the NBA that you can change a WHOLE GAME in the first two minutes by calling fouls against a star player sending him to the bench.
The Donaghy stuff in the NBA is believable b/c NBA refs have just been there too damn long and some have bigger egos than the players. There is no question they play favorites, play to the crowd, make calls to draw attention to themselves, etc. I'm sure a large portion of what Donaghy says is complete BS, but the heart of the issue - refs manipulating a game or officiating in an unethical manner - could very well hold true for the NBA.
I do not think it is the case for the NFL. These refs are doing this part-time, they aren't doing it 82 times a year and gaining relationships & feuds with the players the way NBA refs do. There is much more transparency in NFL refereeing. There is no room for the sketchy stuff that goes on in the NBA.
As I said there are two factors - a) home crowds CAN influence calls in any sport, its human nature b) the Polian factor may be real.
Colt fans ignore everything Jimmy Johnson says about spygate. Johnson said he spied on other teams. Howard Mudd is on the Colts staff and was one of the best at it according to Johnson. Does what he says have any credibility? Enough with this stupid Cheatriots and Belicheat crap. I know Colt fans will never admit to getting favortism in the officiating. Even though I read on other message boards that even some patriot haters admitted that they gave Faulk a bad spot on the 4th and 2 play. Colt fans can't admit to anything.
Now on youtube there is a clip of Bill Parcells chewing out Steve Young when he said how the 49ers messed with their headsets but had scripted plays planned before the game. To me it sounds like all teams took part in this type of gamesmanship. Even Lamar Hunt was one of the best at spying when he coached. I'm sure there was probaly a code between all coaches to not talk about this kind of stuff and rat on each other.
Oh yea and the Colt fans who probaly think we are the ones whining about the officiating. Is 2003 too long to remember how your team whined and put a spin on the game how our DB's mugged your WR's. Well it seems like a coincidence that your team benefited most from the rule change of the no contact after 5 yards. Before it was allowed as long as you didn't interfere with the receivers ability to catch the ball. You guys lobbying for rule changes to give your team a competive advantage over others, plus with the biased officiating that always seems to take place.
On top of that I remember a game in 2007 I believe it was against the Colts where Moss got called for OPI, when he didnt even touch anybody. I don't think the ball was even catchable on that play. I never seen a team get so many breaks from the officials.
I think it's sad the Colts need help from the referees to win games. On top of that it's even sadder that they couldn't beat the steelers in the 2005 afc playoff game while the officials tried to help the Colts out because they were losing. Polamalu getting overturned on the int when he clearly had the pick.